Definitely a repost, but it fits the season

  • Klear@quokk.au
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    21 小时前

    Consider the implication to be some claim, for example, “When it’s raining (A), it’s wet (B)”. The value of the implication tells us whether we should call the claimant a liar or. So in case it’s raining (A = true) and is is not wet (B = false) the claim turns out to be false, so the value of the implication is false.

    Now, supposing it is not raining (A = false). It doesn’t matter whether it’s wet or not, we can’t call the claim false because there just isn’t enough information.

    It’s about falsifiability (or lack thereof, in case A is never true).

    • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
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      18 小时前

      The comment you replied to is my response to this. It’s the only boolean operation that works this way. All the others are straightforward.

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        18 小时前

        I think the problem is that you’re thinking in terms of boolean algebra, while implication being implication comes from propositional logic.

        • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
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          17 小时前

          That’s interesting. I’ll have to read up on that. You’re right, I am thinking about boolean algebra.

          In the mean time though, I’ll note that Boolean algebra on Wikipedia also refers to this operation, so I’m not alone:

          Material conditional

          The first operation, x → y, or Cxy, is called material implication. If x is true, then the result of expression x → y is taken to be that of y (e.g. if x is true and y is false, then x → y is also false). But if x is false, then the value of y can be ignored; however, the operation must return some Boolean value and there are only two choices. So by definition, x → y is true when x is false (relevance logic rejects this definition, by viewing an implication with a false premise as something other than either true or false).

          It also uses the second interpretation that I mentioned in my earlier comment (4 above this one), with true being default, rather than the one we’ve been discussing.