Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday accused the Trump administration of “rigging the election” by dispatching federal poll monitors to five California counties, as voters cast ballots on Newsom’s Proposition 50 redistricting measure.
The Department of Justice announced Friday that it would deploy personnel to polling sites in Fresno, Kern, Los Angeles, Orange and Riverside counties to “ensure transparency, ballot security, and compliance with federal law,” ahead of the state’s Nov. 4 special election.
In an interview with KQED’s Political Breakdown, Newsom said the move was a “setup” for the Trump administration to cast doubt on the potential victory of Proposition 50 — a plan to redraw the state’s congressional district lines to advantage Democrats.
This country isnt making it to the next presidential election without mass turmoil and unrest. It will be an entirely different place again by then.
2026 is going to be madness. And if Democrats don’t take the house, 2028 will be the end.
We are commenting on a thread about the current president openly interfering in state elections. It can be assumed the elections will be compromised.
It’s not a binary issue. Elections have been getting more and more compromised for decades. 2026 will be even more compromised. They will not be entirely compromised, and we have to keep working from the assumption that they won’t be unwinnable, even while preparing for the possibility that we might not win them.
Honestly, I fear that Democrats are more responsible for hurting their chances than Republicans. Even as bad as things have gotten, the Democratic establishment has continued to dig in and refuse to give any ground whatsoever to progressives. It’s becoming a real mask-off moment for a lot of rank and file liberals.
Looks like the Russian bots have gotten to lemmy. Fuck outta here with your literal Russian bot propaganda talking point.
States are responsible for elections, not the feds
So far. Trump is already threatening to change this by sending troops to cities to enforce his election rules.
No shit Nate. Y’all need to update your talking points, that one doesn’t hold water anymore.
Stop relying on elections to save you. You can’t vote your way out of fascism. The only way out is through mass civil unrest. Strikes, blackouts, protests.
But that point of contention is too important. Dems need to take the house in order to build the narrative that precedes the unrest. It’s going to be a lot harder to send that message if they appear too unpopular to do that.
That’s why they need to control the media narratives.
And why they want to make negative opinions of the regime illegal.
Once they’ve made it illegal and can control the media they now have created an environment of fear where no one even trusts their neighbor.
The knock on effect is that it is now harder to organize resistance because even expressing dissent has been outlawed.
I’m pretty sure we’ve crossed that rubicon, the last election was just that. Cross your fingers if you must, but I don’t believe for one second that votes matter anymore in the “united” states.
Yup.
Yup. America is fucked for the foreseeable. No one trusts the system anymore. In 2020, the MAGA said the election was stolen. In 2024, the Dems said the same thing(Thankfully, they didnt storm the capitol like fucking morons though).
America is definitely on a path of some to a hard showdown. Not trusting the system, thinking that the only way you can lose is because the other side cheated… nothing good comes from that. The Republican party needs to take back control from the MAGA fuckwits. This extremism on their end is radicalising elements of the left that are becoming the other side of the MAGA coin. And thats only going to make more MAGA morons.
Someone, ANYONE, needs to get that party back to being just corrupt again. Cos what they are now is fucking silly. And by silly, I mean dangerous as fuck.
There’s been evidence of Republican slanted election interference for decades, don’t both sides this shit.
Because it makes you uncomfortable to know that both sides are shitty?
Senate investigators found evidence of illegal or improper fundraising activity connected to the 1996 federal campaigns and identified arrangements that involved foreign funds routed to Democratic committees and campaigns.
https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/105th-congress/senate-report/167
Emails published in 2016 showed senior DNC staff discussing strategies that favoured Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders during the primary season. The leaks prompted the resignation of DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hacked-emails-cast-doubt-on-hopes-for-party-unity-at-democratic-convention/2016/07/24/a446c260-51a9-11e6-b7de-dfe509430c39_story.html
Reporting based on the leaked emails showed that Donna Brazile, then a DNC vice-chair and CNN contributor, passed town-hall/debate topics or questions to Clinton campaign staff.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/07/donna-brazile-is-totally-not-sorry-for-leaking-cnn-debate-questions-to-hillary-clinton
Local Democratic campaign workers and Town Committee officials were later charged, with at least one pleaded guilty, for mishandling absentee ballots in Bridgeport’s 2019 mayoral primary, including unlawful possession of absentee ballots and related offences.
https://www.ctpublic.org/news/investigative/2024-06-11/four-charged-with-absentee-ballot-misconduct-in-2019-bridgeport-election
Democratic groups and PACs spent millions running ads and other interventions aimed at elevating certain far-right Republican primary candidates, whom Democrats judged easier to defeat in the general election. The Washington Post’s analysis documented significant ad-spending and strategic efforts by Democratic organisations to shape GOP primaries.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/12/democrats-interfere-republican-primaries
So, yeah, I think I will keep on both sidesing this shit. Because both sides are corrupt as fuck. And you all need to get on board with that fact, if you ever want to claw your way out of the hell hole youve made for yourselves.
Bad bot, the primary bullshit didn’t play, you need to update your propaganda points.
Whats its like being in a cult? Whats it like being the very thing that you point at MAGA for? I mean, I couldnt spoon feed you any better than this. You want to claim its not both sides trying to get a leg up in nefarious ways, I just gave you examples of why it is. You want to claim that only Republicans are corrupt, while ignoring the other things I said about Nancy Pelosi fucking over AOC to hold her back from making a run in 2028. You ignore the facts, because youre in a cult. Its a different cult to MAGA, but its still a cult. And you act the same as they do, ignoring and arguing against whats going on out in the open.
Just last year, in broad daylight, the Dems elected a 75 year old man dying of cancer into the top position of the house committee, instead of a 35 year old woman in her prime. Thats fucking boomers, looking after their own interests, and telling the younger generations to take a fucking walk! And it happened right in front of your fucking face! And all you have to say is “bad bot”… Fucking insane.
I think saying this kind of stuff is SO dishonest. Every election you can find people saying the election was stolen. But that is not even remotely close to what the Republicans did in 2020.
Every presidential nominee has conceded except for Trump. Even Al Gore, whose election literally was stolen by the Republicans in the Supreme Court, still conceded for the benefit of democracy.
So please stop spreading this kind of stuff. It only normalizes what Trump did and will do in 2028.
I dont give a shit what you “think”. Im telling what I saw, and what continues to happen. I mean, ffs, youre doing it right now! Pushing this idea that hes going to cheat in 2028. Thats your current narrative. Just like it was, for a lot of online dems, a lie that he won. You all did the same in 2016, when you werent happy that he won.
MAGA might be worse, a lot worse, but youre “team” is still doing shit. So you, yes you, stop spreading this kind of stuff.
It’s fucking proven that he cheated in 16 and 20 and since we did nothing to stop him 24 is a given. Give your balls a tug.
And its proven that youre lot have cheated as well, as you can see in another post. Stop trying to tell me that the party that made sure in 2020, that Americans had no chance of getting free healthcare by forcing Biden into the nom, are the good guys here. They stolen the nom in 2016, and they did it again in 2020, and again in 2024. And you lot keep on thinking they are the ones to free you from this nightmare… Jesus christ.
Look, Trump literally tried to steal the election in 2020. If his mob had successfully stopped the congress vote, I believe Trump would not have left office. That is unlike anything that has ever happened before from either party.
So for you to act like a handful of people might have said Trump stole the 2024 election is the same thing is incredibly dishonest. And it is exactly what the fascist wants.
Reality: Trump tried to stay in office after he lost the election. Never conceded. Harris conceded immediately and left office.
You: People on both sides say the election was stolen. They’re the same.
See how you are being dishonest by saying this?
And saying that Trump is going to try the same thing in 2028 is also not the same. He’s already done it, and this time he is building his own private army and sending military into the streets. This is not a time where you can say “both sides are similarly wrong”.
Edit: Just to add my exclamation point, there have been individual senators that have objected to the certification of votes, but NEVER like the republicans in 2020. The Republican Party was complicit in Trump’s attempt to steal 2020 in a way Democrats never have.
My guy, the Republican Party is MAGA. There’s nothing to go back to. It has been irreversibly transformed.
I’ll set aside other comments I want to make. But it’s important to realize that point.
No, the arent. And if you think that, really think that, youre a culture war moron thats had your brain rotted by the reddit echo chamber.
You’re a Republican aren’t you? You voted for this, didn’t you? Scratch a both sideser, find a MAGAt.
Im not even American. Im a Scottish socialist, with eyeballs that work properly. Step out of your echo chamber, touch some grass, its fun.
You’re a Russian propaganda bot based on all your talking points.
Well, I suppose thats a little better than being called a MAGAT with a chatgpt account… Still though, isnt it funny how you are all doing exactly what I said? You dont trust anything that doesnt fit youre narrative, and in fact openly attack it no matter how true it appears to be. Im just a bot or a troll or whatever else you can lay at my feet instead of actually looking out he window and seeing whats right in front of your face.
This is why America is where it is. You put your faith in the Dems who use you for their own ends, and they put their faith in the Republicans who use them for their own ends. Its insane. You all say the same things about old boomers, but then body swerve the logic when its “your guy”.
Youre all stuck in this nightmare, until you wake up and see whats right in front of youre face. Its not immigrants, its not trans people, its the woke, its not the MAGA, its the rich politicians and their donors. Thats who is doing all this to you.
Making a lot of stupid assumptions in that comment. Pull your head out of your enlightened centrist ass. Your attitude is directly responsible for the rise of white supremacy worldwide.
Sir, this is a Lemmy’s.
In name only. This place has been flooded with reddit pricks who got banned for being too fucking stupid not to wish death on people in a open forum, just because they happen to disagree on an issue.
Harris is DID NOT say the election was stolen. She did the exact opposite of what Trump did. She conceded and acknowledged result of the vote.
On Nov 6 she said:
Never said that Harris did. But thanks for playing.
Which Dems did then?
I mean very different league, but there are studies reports noting some extreme irregularities in several key cities. IE juristictions where hundreds voted for the democratic senator, but zero votes for harris etc…
but yes obviously the key huge thing to point out is democratic represenatives and candidates. aren’t loudly screaming those on the news and twixxer etc… to encourage mass civil unrest
The guy who just replied to you for one…
Trump sends a mob to the capital building to stop the certification of an election. A guy on the internet says there were some irregularities.
u/Bennyboybumberchums: iTs ThE sAmE pIcTuRe
Never said it was, thats just what you took it to mean so you could treat a stranger on the internet like shit. Theres always excuses from you people. You never take responsibility for anything. Whatever you did, they did it worse. Whatever you said, they said worse. Whatever horrible shit you say, well, they said it first. Like fucking children, terrified of being wrong.
You absolutely are. And the rest of your comment only doubled down on it. Quit equating what Trump did in 2020 to what random people on the internet said one time. It is not even comparable.
Saying this kind of stuff only gives Trump and his supporters justification for doing the same thing or worse next time.
And if you think my comment was “treating you like shit”, you probably need to get off the internet. I was as respectful in saying “you are 100% wrong” as possible.
That’s precisely what created MAGA. That’s the swamp.
The Democrats did purge the radicals… and that was their base. Over decades, America’s heartland was sold out to corporations and the urban Brunch Democrats didn’t care. The small farms are gone. Then right wing Democrats told middle America that the economy was fine when it most clearly was not.
Biden was a moderate. Harris was a moderate. What’s that definition of insanity again?