Since Trump’s election, gun groups catering to progressives and people of color report a surge in interest as they look to defend themselves in a country that, to them, feels increasingly unstable.

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    21 hours ago

    No it is not. That number was an outlier during covid. It’s back to car accidents. On top of that, the stats in the child deaths include 15-19 year olds, most of which are from gang shootings, not random 5 year olds being shot.

    The way the anti-gun groups do numbers is specifically designed to make people think that toddlers are being killed every 2 seconds. More children drown every year in pools than by gun deaths, yet no one is screaming to outlaw pools. At the end of the day, most don’t care that kids are dying. They care how they die.

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      On top of that, the stats in the child deaths include 15-19 year olds, most of which are from gang shootings, not random 5 year olds being shot.

      Yeah. So?

      More children drown every year in pools than by gun deaths, yet no one is screaming to outlaw pools.

      I do not understand why gun nuts cannot fathom the difference between something that has utility and can result in death, and something that serves no function other than being a point and click murder machine.

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        21 hours ago

        Yeah. So?

        And there it is, the same disingenuous that the right uses for thier bullshit causes.

        I do not understand why gun nuts cannot fathom the difference between something that has utility and can result in death, and something that serves no function other than being a point and click murder machine.

        A pool has no use, you cannot use it for defense or putting food on the table. A firearm is a utility that has purpose. Fascist are literally snatching people up off the streets and you’re still arguing why no one should have firearms.

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          And there it is, the same disingenuous that the right uses for thier bullshit causes.

          It’s not disingenuous in any way shape or form.

          You have basically said that children killed in gang shootings don’t matter. Try not to throw right wing shade around when you’re parroting their racist talking points about which people do and don’t matter.

          A pool has no use, you cannot use it for defense or putting food on the table.

          Lmao, bruh, it’s this niche little exercise called swimming, you might have heard of it. Try and pull your head out of your ass before pointing us to all the examples you have where ICE has been stopped by people with guns.

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            It’s not disingenuous in any way shape or form. You have basically said that children killed in gang shootings don’t matter. Try not to throw right wing shade around when you’re parroting their racist talking points about which people do and don’t matter.

            It absolutely is.

            https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/24/health/drowning-water-safety-swimming-children-wellness

            Drowning is the leading cause of death in children ages 1 to 4, and after motor vehicle accidents, it is the second leading cause of death attributed to unintentional injuries among kids ages 5 to 14.

            Gang violence is not a gun issue. It’s a educational, safety nets, and jobs issue. Aka social issue that doesn’t magically get corrected because you banned guns.

            Also GTFO with the racist shit. I’m a minority and it’s a dog whistle for you to say “the facts don’t matter, cause it’s racist”. Shit doesn’t get better when you deflect like that. Tough conversations are required to solve tough issues.

            Lmao, bruh, it’s this niche little exercise called swimming, you might have heard of it. Try and pull your head out of your ass before pointing us to all the examples you have where ICE has been stopped by people with guns.

            We’re not at the start mill ICE phase yet. We still have judges blocking shit. You don’t start a civil war just because shit is getting bad.

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              Gang violence is not a gun issue. It’s a educational, safety nets, and jobs issue.

              Omg, so the US is the only country that ever experienced a lack of jobs?

              Oh no! How I could be so stupid and forget that the US is a unique special snowflake child that doesn’t experience any of the same pressures of literally any other country on earth!

              Grow the fuck up amerocentric child.

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        I do not understand why gun nuts cannot fathom the difference between something that has utility and can result in death, and something that serves no function other than being a point and click murder machine.

        There is obviously a lot you don’t understand, and until you do, you should probably not try to debate.

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          Make a relevant argument, or keep your mouth shut. No one needs to hear you talk other than you.