• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I run a condo building and there’s about half a dozen apartments in the building that have been sitting vacant for as long as I’ve been here for about 5 years now. The owners don’t even live in the country. Just apartments sitting there unused for years

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        2 months ago

        As long as we refuse to decouple housing from a tool of speculation, we will not address affordable housing.

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            2 months ago

            I think it’s fine to use it as a speculation tool if you are living there. If not, then it should be a massive tax liability. Pressure people buying empty homes to either rent them to someone for cheap, live in them, or sell them.

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              2 months ago

              this is precisely what NIMBYism is. People living in their own homes, who want to force up the value by preventing new homes from being constructed.

              it’s also the reason for the crisis. without that attitude and all the zoning restrictions, our housing market would be much more cheap and flexible. but when you have towns that only permit like 50 new houses a a year, and the population is growing at 3x that, you have a serious problem

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                2 months ago

                The flip side is when your state mandates allowing 4-6 homes on regular SFH plots and then your property value goes up because you can now build more housing

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              2 months ago

              I think the concept of a tax penalty with some relief for having a tenant that isn’t being gouged sounds nice.

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                2 months ago

                Hell, just requiring HAVING a tenant would be great for starters because of how many empty homes there are. If you’ve got the empty homes, and a tax penalty for them being empty, suddenly they’d have to compete for tenants. Wouldn’t that be wonderful?

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                    2 months ago

                    Exactly this. Any sort of “is the tenant not being overcharged” check would be extra complexity that’s not strictly necessary anyway. Once more properties become available on the market (because their owners want to pay less property tax), rents naturally start going down. Just need the vacancy tax to be high enough. If it’s a tiny tax, it doesn’t make a change.

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            2 months ago

            Most homeowners only own the home they live in. For what it’s worth, housing prices don’t matter if you don’t intend to buy or sell.

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              2 months ago

              I think much more money is tied up in funds that indirectly own the houses. Common folk likely have some of their 401k tied up, knowingly or unknowingly.

              Housing prices shouldn’t matter, except you can borrow against the valuation, making the hypothetical cost real. Also real estate taxes and insurance.

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              2 months ago

              yes, they very much do. most people aren’t selling their 401K anytime soon if they aren’t in their 60s.

              but the value of that asset very much impacts their sense of financially security and their spending habits.

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                2 months ago

                So your parents borrowed against the value of their home to put you through college. They could have also taken out parent plus loans to do the same thing. Why is this an argument for letting home prices soar?

      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        I think you should be a resident with records of living in the country before being allowed to buy. Letting the Chinese wealthy buy up all our land is stupid and short sighted