I’m a little out of the loop on TV’s. I mainly PC game, but have a few consoles as well. My question is, what is a TV made today that just has the lowest possible input lag? I don’t give a crap about quality or any of this 1440p (i?) stuff (stopped caring many years ago. I still watch VHS tapes on my CRT’s). All I care about is input lag because it ruins the gaming experience for me.

Currently have a shitpile Insignia that is so bad, you can’t game on it (even racing games) and it’s so slow that video and audio often get out of sync on it and it needs a factory reset. It was free so i’ve been using it but it’s just upsetting me now. I’m wiling to drop $500-800 on an enjoyable gaming TV if something like that exists for that price. Something 40" or so is just fine with me. For reference the newest console on it would be a Xbox 360. I don’t play anything older than PS2 on modern TV’s as CRT’s are better in every way for old consoles.

Otherwise, I’ll just go back to all CRT and projector TV for consoles.

thanks yall!’

Edit: i also didn’t clarify, but I’d really like to not use a smart TV. I really hate them. I just want a TV to be a TV if possible, or have the least possible amount of features.

  • Ulrich@feddit.org
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    what is a TV made today that just has the lowest possible input lag?

    Probably LG’s OLEDs. They’re pricey though. But I can’t remember the last time I used a TV with a noticeable amount of input lag, so long as they’re in game mode.

    i also didn’t clarify, but I’d really like to not use a smart TV.

    Better stick to your CRTs then. Alternatively you can just not use the smart functions (sometimes). I have a Fire TV and never connected it and its not a problem.

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    You can’t get a decent non-smart TV, but you can just not connect a Smart TV to the internet.

    Any TV you buy will have a range of “picture quality enhancement” settings. These all introduce some rendering latency. Game modes on TVs (for the most part) bypass the PQE functions. Rtings.com is a quality source for this kind of info. They do good work and publish their testing methodologies.

    Source… worked a shitload of years in TV electronics, and was part of the industry from Smart TVs being godawful to just a few years ago.

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    Most people will recommend avoiding any “smart” features on the TVs sets and say buy a monitor cause they have no smart features. Rightfully so, TVs can be privacy nightmares potentially.

    That said I have recommendations for both:

    Midrange TV pick: LG 48B5 - $529 at Best Buy

    Fancy smaller Monitor Asus ROG Swift 32 OLED Monitor

    Premium TV LG C5 (Available in 42, 48, 55, 65, 77, and 83 inch)

    Ultra Premium LG G5 (Available in 55, 65, 77, and 83 inch)

    Budget TV TCL QM7K

    Budget Monitor Samsung G5 series

    Pound for pound dollar for dollar LG makes the best OLEDs and overall TVs. Sony is good but not worth the premium anymore.

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    A good modern oled can get you within ~2ms difference from a CRT depending on how you measure. But the catch is the TV needs to have a low latency or “game” mode that shuts off the on-board video processing. My best recommendation is to browse TVs that are oled (not qled) in your price range, and check the listing for low latency or gaming modes. You should find something that fits the bill pretty quickly.

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    It varies model to model and year to year, but in general you want a television with either a “Game” mode or “ALLM” (Auto Low Latency Mode).

    So on the LG C5 model that’s popular right now:

    https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-oled65c5pua-oled-4k-tv

    VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) - Yes (Up to 144Hz)
    ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) - Yes
    FreeSync™ - Yes
    Game Optimizer - Yes
    G-Sync Compatible (Nvidia) - Yes
    HGIG Mode - Yes (disables the TV tone mapping and allows the game to control HDR - “HDR Gaming Interest Group”)
    Response Time - Less than 0.1ms

    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      Is there anything that’s just a “TV” with none of this extra bullshit though? All I want is a quality TV I can turn on, and it’s a TV with no lag.

      I appreciate your suggestion!

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        If you don’t connect the LG to the network it can be just a dumb monitor. Set the tv to always use the last active input when you turn it on and you will never see a menu or any prompts.