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Why does nano always get such hate. Surely as a quick simple text editor it does the job?
I liked it a lot until it started asking me for money every time I saved a file.
Now I use the built in text editor.
ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR
Defaulting to nano without consent
This is the real crime
Okay. Proceed to set up ‘ed’ as default
I’m okay with that
No Vim! Vi only! Yes I know if you type “vi filename.txt” you get Vim. That’s not the point. Vi is nearly 50 years old. Have some respect.
I think the distinction is trivial. Or trivimial?
I’m glad a peace was found, but go vim!
I don’t use Arch btw.
I was laughing out loud until I read the part on VS Code or Google Docs to “avoid ideological tensions”.
Clearly Herve Beraud is a closed source advocate, total rage bait! /s
nano for lyfe! what’s the fine for a “class c user experience violation”?
Banishment to Windows.
That’s torture and a human rights violation!
eww, ok, I’ll switch to vim
You can still use nano. Just don’t make it the default for your distro or you’ll lose your Linux license.
steals your escape key
Now, try to exit vim.
Vim has long since won the war. I say that as an emacs user who is familiar with using vim because it’s installed by default on the vast majority of computers I interact with nowadays
Freedom of religion is a fundamental human right. Evangelization should not be punished. I protest (:
Awesome. And now…
- Step 2: Tabs or spaces.
4 spaces by default for indentation unless
.editorconfigsays otherwise.a tab is four spaces… press tab all you want…
Vertical or horizontal tabs?
Slazer here opening a new front in the tabs v space war
New?
LOL, I prefer nano.
There’s always a smaller editor: pico
You’re in luck, it’s a designated neutral editor
Hello, EU police?
You pervert!
My boy nano getting a drive by. He always there for me when I need to quickly edit a conf file
Delete
nanoalready.Let’s make
microthe standard!!Nah,
ededis, in fact, in the POSIX standard.https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/
Shell & Utilities -> Utilities -> ed
In fact, it looks like
exandsed, both child editors ofed, are baked into the standard. Nopico-family editors.
Nice, an analognowhere I missed!
Why should micro be the standard over nano?
Because
nanohas unacceptable key combos, and no support for mouse.microhas sensible key combos, good syntax highlighting and supports mouse perfectly fine.Nano’s key combos are acceptable. Source: I accept them.
Removed by mod
make the standard
code-insidersbut in vim mode
This “neutrality” is like giving equal voice to doctors and tobacco companies. They need to take the initiative for public health and declare the correct, ergonomic editor as international standard.
Obviously Emacs with Evil mode… or Vim with Vimacs?
It’s like giving equal voice to NASA, and to Barry who thinks the sky is a carpet painted by a god.
“This whole International Space Station idea is patently ridiculous, what’re they gonna do, hang it from the carpet?”
(with apologies to Dara O Briain)
Yes, but only if it’s the editor I use /s
Of course. Why would you use the wrong editor?
Which is clearly…
The pen
The pen
Is that a neovim plugin?
Ed is the standard and only option.
EDITOR=shredtoo if you’re brave or having a rough day.Remember to put
#!/bin/rmat the top of every file, to teach people not to execute files they shouldn’t.
Please use “/usr/bin/env [command]”. Otherwise, it will not work on NixOS
rmdoesn’t work on NixOS?Then how do you do
rm -rf / --no-preserve-root?Not really cool to post commands like that without consideration for privileges for newcomers, make sure to use
sudofirst. /sNixOS has
rm. But it’s not under/bin. There is no/binin NixOS. The user’s programs are inside/run/current-system/sw/bin, and those are symlinks from files hidden in/nix/store.Running
rm -rf / --no-preserve-rootunder NixOS, will not nuke the entire system, since/nix/storeis mounted as read-only, and only remounted as rw when new applications are downloaded, or older unused ones are wiped.Does that mean it works if you happen to run it while a download is ongoing?
Maybe… I haven’t tried it to be honest. I will need to setup a VM for that, as my personal files would get wiped anyway.
If you want to test it yourself, try to
rmwhilenixos-rebuildis running.
Ed is kinda-sorta great-granddaddy vim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_(software)
ed (pronounced as distinct letters, /ˌiːˈdiː/)[1] is a line editor for Unix and Unix-like operating systems. It was one of the first parts of the Unix operating system that was developed, in August 1969.
Dennis M. Ritchie produced what Doug McIlroy later described as the “definitive” ed,[5] and aspects of ed went on to influence ex, which in turn spawned vi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi_(text_editor)
Vim (“Vi IMproved”) has many additional features compared to vi, including (scriptable) syntax highlighting, mouse support, graphical versions, visual mode, many new editing commands and a large amount of extension in the area of ex commands.
I’ve never used qed, but it sounds like that might be considered even one step back:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_(software)
Many features of ed came from the qed text editor developed at Thompson’s alma mater University of California, Berkeley.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QED_(text_editor)
Initial release: 1967
I guess TECO — which I also have not used — would kinda-sorta be the emacs analog:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TECO_(text_editor)
TECO (/ˈtiːkoʊ/[1]), short for Text Editor & Corrector, [2] [3][4] is both a character-oriented text editor and a programming language,[5][6] that was developed in 1962 for use on Digital Equipment Corporation computers, and has since become available on PCs and Unix. Dan Murphy developed TECO while a student at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).
It was subsequently modified by many other people[7] and is a direct ancestor of Emacs, which was originally implemented in TECO macros.
EDIT: Actually…hmm. Now that I think of it, I might have briefly used TECO on a DEC VAX/VMS cluster. IIRC, I mostly used EVE, though.
EDIT2: Hmm. Apparently someone has ported TECO to Linux:
TECO, that grand old text editor your father used when he was young, is still available! It is powerful and compact precursor to EMACS and has a completely nongraphical user interface. This is based on Pete Siemsen’s TECOC implementation, and comes with a copy of the original DECUS TECO documentation.
Do I need a paper tape punch and reader to use TECO?
No. Modern TECOs will also edit text files.
Is TECO fast?
Yes, it’s probably the fastest editor available
While I’m maintaining the files as I had worked on them and downloads here, Blake McBride has taken the source code, added the video/scope mode, fixed bugs and improved the speed (not that it is slow!), documented the changes and has it available in GitHub. Go here for his work https://github.com/blakemcbride/TECOC
tries building it
Hah. It takes under a third of a second to compile on my system:
$ git clone https://github.com/blakemcbride/TECOC.git $ cd TECOC/src $ time make -j32 -f makefile.linux >/dev/null 2>&1 real 0m0.296s user 0m2.341s sys 0m0.874s $Hmm. Yeah, I don’t remember how to use this at all, if I did use it. Looks like the command syntax is a little like ed’s, but you whack Escape twice to execute commands. Each press of Escape displays a dollar sign.
Intro guide © 1972: https://ia902906.us.archive.org/25/items/bitsavers_decpdp10TOandbook04tecoIntro_1457616/04_tecoIntro_text.pdf
$ ./tecoc *Ihello, world!$$ *EWtest.txt$$ *EX$$ $ cat test.txt; echo hello, world! $Clearly does work, though.
Vim is bloatware atop Ed making it insanely memory hungry and nearly unusable.
(Send from an IBM PC with 256k memory running LFS)
LFS is unlikely to run on such a machine. BSD or Xenix are appropriate operating systems.
TECO is clearly the correct choice
