• oni ᓚᘏᗢ@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    People is talking in México, everybody is saying (including me) that is a smoke screen for the last events that have took place in the country: Waldos’ incident in Hermosillo and Carlos Manzo’s murder in Uruapan, both happening the same day, the Day of the Dead’s eve.

    Edit: If really is a smoke screen, Morena is showing us once again that you always can get lower. Only they can use a real problem like women harassment to make people forget that Mexico is mad and we want a real change.

    Edit 2: It’s already happening: https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/05/politica/ony-y-onu-mujeres-respaldan-a-sheinbaum-tras-episodio-de-acoso I hate this goverment so much

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      21 hours ago

      You’re saying she wanted to be groped, that she orchestrated it? That’s pretty fucked up to say. Anything to allow this type of behavior, right?

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        watch the video. if it were fake and staged then when you see the video of the act it looks like nothing. Again, the guy in the video holds her shoulder and leans in for a kiss, but stops short of kissing her because he was told to by her security. Are you a white american? I believe mexicans over you

        Again, if this were not taged then obviously youre in the right to be upset, but there is a potential this was staged. Why couldnt this have been staged as the mexican people in this thread keep saying

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        21 hours ago

        If I’m reading the edit correctly, cappucino is saying that women being harrassed is a real problem in Mexico and that Morena is fucked up enough to use it as a distraction from other serious issues.

        Edit; they’re also blaming the party, not her specifically. Reading up on her, I think she’s OK. The party seems corrupt though.

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          17 hours ago

          One cannot simultaneously say that it’s a serious issue and then dismiss an incidence of it, plain to see on camera, with a conspiracy theory.

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            16 hours ago

            …yeah, you can. Are you implying that no giverment has ever performed false flag attacks?

            Im not on either side of this, only learned about it yesterday. But it is a wild take to say that because you recognise a problem, you are suddenly magically incapable of looking at nuance.

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              I’m saying that men have groped women many orders of magnitude more frequently and Occam’s razor should apply. You can turn this into a false flag conspiracy and blame the woman who got groped, on zero evidence Just don’t claim you’re serious about women’s issues if you do. You can’t have it all.

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                14 hours ago

                If I’m reading the edit correctly, cappucino is saying that women being harrassed is a real problem in Mexico and that Morena is fucked up enough to use it as a distraction from other serious issues.

                im not going to debate whether i stand for womens rights with you. But again, nuance.

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                    14 hours ago

                    Nice bait, but I’m not going to feed into that. I guess this conversation is over, glad to see you’ve completely abandoned your argument after realising it was wrong. Tbh it was a lot easier to convince you than i thought, but the facts stand for themselves i suppose

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        21 hours ago

        You can imagine how much we have seen this kind of behavior before. Women that are obviously culprit, mocking off real victims of sexual abuse, wanting to be shielded by sorority. Here Claudia Sheinbaum “is another victim”, she felt harrasded, like Carlos Manzo did when he asked for help for its city and was completly ignored.

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          People downvote you because it sounds ridiculous, but this is literally what’s happening, this has been the playbook of Morena in Mexico. Think Mexican GOP if you’re struggling with the concept that we can also have shameless self-serving clowns as political leaders hoarding more and more power.

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      20 hours ago

      Se pueden atender dos problemas al mismo tiempo. El gobierno es un asco pero no entiendo que tiene que ver la noticia de la ONU con la explosión del waldos

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        20 hours ago

        La ONU está respaldando a Claudia, probablemente todo el mundo se entere de lo que le pasó a ella debido ya que la ONU está relacionada ahora, lo que me da mucha rabia es que ahora existe una mujer viuda, que ahora es alcaldeza de Uruapan. ¿Quién la respalda a ella y lo que le pueda pasar? Acaba de pasar completamente a segundo plano.