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    4 days ago

    Cool, now ban the countdown chips that brick ink and printers that are still perfectly serviceable.

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    4 days ago

    Just FYI to people that you can get remanufactured ink cartridges for a fraction of the price (around half) of OEM. They are sometimes modified to contain more ink in the same body. The company I purchased from included a prepaid bag to send used cartridges back for reuse.

    Also while I’m in PSA mode “REDUCE, REUSE, and then recycle”. Sometimes we skip over the first two steps since reducing is not marketable and reusing rarely is (although reusing printer cartridges appears to be a sustainable business).

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        3 days ago

        You’re not wrong. Just have to be selective which brand printer you buy - and I say that with the awareness that a company can enshittify an online printer capable of monitoring cartridge use/ID at their whim. BS Proprietary cartridges that know when they’ve been used up and tattle someone’s refilled them and refuse to work (looking at you, HP).

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      4 days ago

      I don’t want to be in the center of an ordnance drop. It’s a statement of fact and a way to remember which of the words has an ‘i’ somewhere around the middle.

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    I remember years ago seeing a list of the “most expensive liquids in the world”, and black printer ink was near the top of the list.

    Other things on the list were scorpion venom, cobra venom, crab blood, insulin, things of that nature.

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      Kodak is to blame for that. Printers used to be expensive and ink cheap but then Kodak flipped the business model and made a ton of sales. Other printer companies were losing out, so they followed. I guess also blame falls on the consumers of that time for choosing that model as well

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        Funny, I had a Kodak printer for years since they had the cheapest ink by a large margin. HP was always the most expensive.

        What year did that flip?

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          19 hours ago

          From the Kodak Wikipedia

          spent hundreds of millions of dollars to build up a high-margin printer ink business to replace falling film sales, a move which was widely criticized due to the amount of competition present in the printer market, which would make expansion difficult.[128] Kodak’s ink strategy rejected the razor and blades business model used by dominant market leader Hewlett-Packard by selling expensive printers with cheaper ink cartridges.[129] In 2011, these new lines of inkjet printers were said to be on verge of turning a profit, although some analysts were skeptical as printouts had been replaced gradually by electronic copies on computers, tablets, and smartphones.[129] Inkjet printers continued to be viewed as one of the company’s anchors after it entered bankruptcy proceedings.

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            That’s wild!

            I had my inkjet from around 2011 to 2015. I think it was a C310 but I can’t find any proof of that. I only know it took the 30B/C cartridges.

            They were $25-30 for a bundle on a retailer’s shelf while everything else was closer to $50-70 for a bundle on a retailer’s shelf. There was a 20% yield difference between the two, but that’s no 20% markup! I vaguely recall a 30B double pack that was only $15 total, and that’s what I used to buy once or twice a year. None of that hidden “Cyan mixed in the black to make it blacker” crap that HP did either.

            How ironic that Kodak rigged the game to make ink expensive, and then others beat them at it.

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            wait wait… reading comprehension fail on my part. Both that NBC article and Wikipedia are saying that Kodak went against the grain by selling more expensive printers with cheaper ink.

            Eastman Kodak Co. is introducing a line of desktop printers and low cost replacement inks on Tuesday, as the photography company takes on a market dominated by Hewlett-Packard.

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    4 days ago

    Repeat after me: plastic does not recycle. It inevitably degrades in the process.

    Regarding printers… ink tanks is the only sensible answer.

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      4 days ago

      Community ink tanks, with pipelines to transmit the ink from where it is mined to substations, and on and on.

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      We also need some sort of way to prevent heads from drying out so quickly.

      Printer companies know heads dry out, and they ship tanks with caps / tape for prevent dry out on retail store shelves. But once the tanks are installed, printers just leave the heads exposed to the air. Like a pen without a cap, the tanks dry out.

      I print like 5 times a year. So 90% of the time, when I’m replacing a tank, it’s because the damn head dried out.

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          3 days ago

          Only problem is size. Color lasers are chonky compared to a color inkjet. And a small printer is nice if you only print a handful of times a year. They’re easier to shove in a drawer or closer.

          The days of me dedicating 24/7 desk space to a printer is over in my house.

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      Laser is the answer. Inkjet dries and clogs the jets if not used often like back when it was invented. Hardly anyone prints like that anymore.

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        Only problem with laser is the desk size for color laser. If you don’t print very often, and you want color, a laser can take up space.

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          If you don’t print very often and you want color, inkjet is terrible because of the short lifespan of the cartridges. Your library will probably have a printing service available for cheap or free. I think mine does color too. I get $35 of print credit every month just for living in the county. Otherwise there’s always commercial print shops like FedEx.