• ORbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    1 month ago

    I get that people like things to be easier, but honestly, Arch’s installation process is so streamlined these days that I don’t see that as the selling point. However, if it provides a better driver experience, then that’s cool. Simply not something I need.

    • SloganLessons@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      EOS provides some more QoL features, it’s not just the installation itself (a button to update mirrors, auto keyring update, some nice pre-installed things like yay, etc)

      If you need an Arch installation ready to go out of the box, EOS is a solid choice.

      Edit: not trying to convince you to jump to EOS, just providing a bit more context about the distro

      • ORbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Yeah, that’s cool. For me, the beauty of Arch is how naked it is when I install it. It’s like “least priveleges” but for my workstation. I only add the crap I want. No more, no less.

        I cut my teeth on FreeBSD 2.2.1 way back in '97 or whenever the hell that came out. Suffice it to say, that OS was naked as hell. Arch feels like coming home to me in a strange way, even though BSD is still solid. Linux is a much better workstation that BSD these days.

        edit: perhaps I’m something of a masochist. :)

        • pathief@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          I see Endeavour as Arch with sane defaults. They also use the Arch repos, if the distro dies I’m not really affected.

  • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    I do not get why people on distros like Endevour or Cachy say that they use arch. It makes me cringe everytime. Be proud of your distro, they are all good.

    • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      28 days ago

      I mean, if you’re on Fedora or CentOS, it’s basically Red Hat. Lots of such instances. Potato, po-tot-o.

      Anyways, if a person uses Arch, is switching to Endeavor beneficial? Will it be more convenient or feel restrictive?

      I’ve been in vanilla Arch for well over a year and have had a few challenges here and there. Really from Hyprland more than the OS. My mouse and touchpad are a nightmare and I just hotkey everything. Also there is a networking bug that took me 5 hours to get around recently. Saw lots of folks complaining about it, but I resolved it.

      • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        28 days ago

        But no one has ever said they use redhat when they use centOS or fedora. That doesnt happen on other distros they just say the distro they use. Obviously its not a big deal but it is cringe and all the responses from people twisting themselves into knots trying to defend it is even more cringe.

        Anyways, if a person uses Arch, is switching to Endeavor beneficial? Will it be more convenient or feel restrictive?

        That depends, if you can configure arch then no because it will only add things you’ll want to remove. If you cant then its nice to have maintainers to configure and maintain your distro for you.

        • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          23 days ago

          I just updated my OS and all my issues were from Hyprland working afterwards. I guess if the WM is going to be the issue every time, maybe I might try Sway or something rather than and an easier OS.

  • domdanial@reddthat.comEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Basically means that the core OS files and systems can’t be changed. Everything else is stacked on top, and usually it means that you can rollback to a previous OS version if an update breaks something, without relying on any other image backup software.

    Usually results a more stable reliable system, or at least one that’s easy to revert to working.

    The downside being a reduction in flexibility and customizable options, and most programs need to be “containerized.”

    • NathanUp@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Endeavour is not immutable. It’s Arch with a graphical installer and some convenient tools in the welcome app.

      • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        28 days ago

        Any trackers or nonsense that comes with it? I’ve been vanilla Arch for a year and sometimes it’s a pain in the ass. I can never recall how I installed something. I still don’t know how to update my browser without just reinstalling.

        • NathanUp@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          23 days ago

          Nothing like that, no. Arch (and Endeavour) are advanced distros. I’d recommend Fedora KDE if you want something easier. You could safely run updates with Discover on Fedora.

          Read up on Pacman on the Arch wiki or by using the man command to learn how to update and install software. With Endeavour there is also the eos-update utility.

          • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            23 days ago

            My issues with pacman are fighting with reflector, which I figured out, and forgetting where I got packages. Pacman and AUR are easy, but I can never remember if it’s a git clone or whatnot.