A new poll suggests almost a third of Canadians say the United States might attempt "direct action" to take control of Canada, with a fifth of Americans agreeing.
Am Canadian. I fully believe that within the next year he will be openly talking about invading. Within a couple of could well be done. The guerrilla war will go on for ever though, you can take Canada but you will have a very hard time keeping it.
Am American. We (the broad majority) don’t want Canada. or Greenland. or Venezuela. Any of this fascist shit. I’m so fucking sick of this. I want to go back to politics being boring-ish and about deciding what taxes will and won’t pay for and having actual friends whom we aren’t actively bullying. I wish this scenario were laughable, but it’s not.
No citizenship ever has been in a better position to prevent their government from doing horrible things, and yet we do nothing. We wring our hands and aren’t willing to hurt, let alone die, for what is morally right. The small arms in this country are more than enough to overwhelm the entire place. We have the numbers and the weapons and yes some would have to die. This isn’t even special though, all throughout history people have died for principles, it’s just… we don’t have any.
Are we in a better position to prevent government from doing horrible things? I’m honestly at a loss for what meaningful action the populace should be taking. We’ve been protesting. Largest single-day mass protests in country history during this term.
We’ve impeached this president (twice) and each time nothing happened because the elected senate blocked removal.
We do NOT have a strong history of general strikes, we simply don’t know how to do it since it has not been done here.
Our populace is not well positioned to fix this except hope that the midterms happen and aren’t sufficiently fucked that we sweep democrats back into power and put a check back on the system.
The guerrilla war will go on for ever though, you can take Canada but you will have a very hard time keeping it.
Which is why i’d find it “hilarious” if he tries any boots-on-the-ground shit in Venezuela.
I almost hope he did just so murica would go though another Vietnam… even then they’d still believe they’re the Land of the fee, Home of the grease.
Fellow Canadian. The US has been moderately successful at third generation warfare (so long as they are part of an international coalition, they don’t do so hot on their own). They are less successful at fourth generation warfare.
To expand, the goal of third generation warfare is outright victory in a state on state conflict. Fourth generation warfare’s goal is to make war very, VERY uncomfortable in an asymmetric conflict. There is no outright victory condition (aside from total annihilation). The USA can look forward to a very generous helping of the latter should they invade Canada.
Mounties and the city cops will probably be on the guerilla’s side as often as not. Resistance becomes possible because it will be against whatever new collaborateur occupation force, and there could still be a government in exile out there directing and giving it legitimacy.
Of course, we get to live in Afghanistan but colder in this scenario. Yaaay. /s
Americans and traitors, the latter of which may include MAGA Canadians. There are currently an uncomfortable number of them (including cops, I suspect) that haven’t figured out that announcing your treasonous intentions all over Facebook and Twitter just makes it easier for everyone to know who the enemy is when conflict breaks out. And as the state is usually predisposed during conflict, traitors are typically dealt with by the mob…and the mob has a far less nuanced and humane view of justice.
An occupation of Canada would mostly be handled by your own law enforcement, just under new management, though I’m sure a bunch of confederate-flag-pickup Albertans would sign up too, once hiring standards are removed.
Am Canadian. I fully believe that within the next year he will be openly talking about invading. Within a couple of could well be done. The guerrilla war will go on for ever though, you can take Canada but you will have a very hard time keeping it.
Am American. We (the broad majority) don’t want Canada. or Greenland. or Venezuela. Any of this fascist shit. I’m so fucking sick of this. I want to go back to politics being boring-ish and about deciding what taxes will and won’t pay for and having actual friends whom we aren’t actively bullying. I wish this scenario were laughable, but it’s not.
That doesn’t help at all. We are complicit.
No citizenship ever has been in a better position to prevent their government from doing horrible things, and yet we do nothing. We wring our hands and aren’t willing to hurt, let alone die, for what is morally right. The small arms in this country are more than enough to overwhelm the entire place. We have the numbers and the weapons and yes some would have to die. This isn’t even special though, all throughout history people have died for principles, it’s just… we don’t have any.
Are we in a better position to prevent government from doing horrible things? I’m honestly at a loss for what meaningful action the populace should be taking. We’ve been protesting. Largest single-day mass protests in country history during this term.
We’ve impeached this president (twice) and each time nothing happened because the elected senate blocked removal.
We do NOT have a strong history of general strikes, we simply don’t know how to do it since it has not been done here.
Our populace is not well positioned to fix this except hope that the midterms happen and aren’t sufficiently fucked that we sweep democrats back into power and put a check back on the system.
Unless you get off your collective couches that’s all that it is: wishes.
You are a serf of America. What you want matters exactly as much as what I want here in Canada.
Which is why i’d find it “hilarious” if he tries any boots-on-the-ground shit in Venezuela.
I almost hope he did just so murica would go though another Vietnam… even then they’d still believe they’re the Land of the fee, Home of the grease.
Fellow Canadian. The US has been moderately successful at third generation warfare (so long as they are part of an international coalition, they don’t do so hot on their own). They are less successful at fourth generation warfare.
To expand, the goal of third generation warfare is outright victory in a state on state conflict. Fourth generation warfare’s goal is to make war very, VERY uncomfortable in an asymmetric conflict. There is no outright victory condition (aside from total annihilation). The USA can look forward to a very generous helping of the latter should they invade Canada.
You think Canadians are going to shoot mounties and cops in meaningful numbers?
Mounties and the city cops will probably be on the guerilla’s side as often as not. Resistance becomes possible because it will be against whatever new collaborateur occupation force, and there could still be a government in exile out there directing and giving it legitimacy.
Of course, we get to live in Afghanistan but colder in this scenario. Yaaay. /s
Yes we will, Asshole.
What makes us so different than all those highly armed and trained individuals NOT shooting ICE agents right now?
I hope I’m wrong. But also maybe don’t post something that can be used against you to stop you from doing the thing.
Americans and traitors, the latter of which may include MAGA Canadians. There are currently an uncomfortable number of them (including cops, I suspect) that haven’t figured out that announcing your treasonous intentions all over Facebook and Twitter just makes it easier for everyone to know who the enemy is when conflict breaks out. And as the state is usually predisposed during conflict, traitors are typically dealt with by the mob…and the mob has a far less nuanced and humane view of justice.
These MAGA Canadians think it’s an edgy joke.
An occupation of Canada would mostly be handled by your own law enforcement, just under new management, though I’m sure a bunch of confederate-flag-pickup Albertans would sign up too, once hiring standards are removed.
Yep, all targets