Security forces were given free rein to use lethal force during the January 8–9 crackdown to spread fear and deter further protests in Iran, a senior government official said in a closed-door meeting, according to a source familiar with the talks.
The closed-door meeting was held to brief senior government officials and local governors on the brutal crackdown on protesters, the source told Iran International.
The senior official said security forces were given “full authority and a blank check to attack, with the aim of creating maximum fear to deter the resurgence of protests," the source said.
The order, he added, made no distinction between civilians and others.
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The senior official speaking at the meeting was presenting assessments by security bodies that sharply contradict the government’s official figures on the killings.
While the official death toll stands at nearly 3,000, classified documents and eyewitness reports reviewed by Iran International’s editorial board show that more than 36,500 people were killed during the targeted suppression of Iran’s national uprising on the orders of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.
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This guy just gunned down 36,500 civilian protestors.
I’ve been following this story. It’s considered the most horrendous death toll of protestors in the history of the world.
I don’t think people understand the gravity of this.
And like most Americans, Ive got my hands full with domestic problems.
But 36,500 people. Executed. Children. Grand parents. Neighbors. Entire families.
There are reports the attackers entered hospitals and shot patients in the head.
Imagine if Iran sent planes loaded with bombs to the US because of the MN protestors getting killed.
If the US government killed 36,000 protesters I would probably want them to.
No you wouldn’t. Just look at how many Americans die each year due to lack of health care. Then look at how many Americans die due to gun violence. Then look at how many American veterans commit suicide each day. Stop acting like you care, about Iranians or Americans. Or at least start caring instead of raising that veteran suicide number.
So you don’t currently feel it would be justified to overthrow the US government over what happened in MN? Interesting.
I think it’s self evident that 6 and 36,000 are not even close to the same number. Given the instance you are from I would like to ask a follow up question though. How do you feel about all the protesters killed by the Chinese and Russian governments? Do they matter as much as the Iranians or Americans killed by their respective governments?
Yeah of course they matter, thanks for making really weird assumptions about my morals based on a domain name you fucking weirdo. Do they justify supporting any given country invading them is the question here. I don’t think there’s a number that could get me to support that but it seems like you have one you’re just not willing to name it. So far it’s narrowed down between 6 and 36000.
It’s a perfectly fair assumption given the fact that you’re attempting to equate two numbers that are multiple orders of magnitude apart for ideological reasons.
What sort of action should the world take against governments that murder protesters?
in Tankie logic a few dead americans is somehow means the USA should collapse, but the mass murders of Mao and Stalin are totally OK because it was for the ‘greater good’. because things are SO GREAT in those countries for the average citizen… soooo much better than it is in the USA/Europe.
Everyone agrees that killing protesters is wrong, no matter the number. The real issue isn’t just about how many deaths justify action, it’s about fairness. Why do some countries face outrage and others don’t?
Instead of arguing over numbers, maybe we should focus on how to hold all governments accountable without making things worse. (Which is just dreams, we can’t really hold anyone accountable nowadays)
Violence from outside rarely fixes things, but ignoring injustice isn’t the answer either. The goal should be justice for all, not just the cases that fit our biases, and no country should unilaterally decide when or how to intervene in another’s affairs without facing serious scrutiny.
Ultimately, I don’t believe the US and Israel would intervene in Iran to protect protesters. It feels more like a pretext to install a regime that serves their own interests, more precisely, Israels interest. For “the great israel”.
Also, never forget Holodomor, done by the zionist stalin in order to decimate a freedom movement at that time.
I feel sorry for you for your failure to understand other people.
One cannot justify a violation of another countries sovereignty regardless of how bad things are. If the US, Iranian, Chinese, Russian, or any other citizens want their government overthrown for violations of their rights it is on them to do the work.
I’d be s little cautious about those numbers, we all remember WMDs in Iraq and Iraquis throwing babies out of incubators.
The statements come from an Iranian senior official. He said forces were given
“full authority and a blank check to attack, with the aim of creating maximum fear to deter the resurgence of protests.”
And the senior official speaking at the meeting was presenting
assessments by security bodies that sharply contradict the government’s official figures on the killings.
A supposed anonymous iranian senior official as quoted by the website iranintl.com in an article without author’s name on it. Are we able to cross-source that claim or have some info about that website, if it’s worth it’s words? In a situation where your only choice are state’s PR agencies and west-facing news outlets, it’s weird to unconditionally believe only one of them.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Iran massacring its civilians is not an extraordinary claim.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
So go on and provide them.
Authoritarian theistic shithole government accepted 3k people dead, so we know that’s a real deal and they can’t just silence that, alright, and the numbers are obviously over what they claim.
But some source pushes it 10x that, alleges they have some insides from within the house. And I’m not informed if it’s a legit media source or on the level of someone’s substack. No names there, nothing, even said article got posted without an author’s name on it, while they do put these on other articles. In order to trust it, and not just average it with the state’s PR team, I need some background, some cred, just something to believe they don’t make these up on the spot.
And that got posted three times by a person that gets called out for their overwhelming presence (on their main acc).
Some ordinary evidence would be sufficient in that case.
Eye witness reports show Iran is actively trying to disguise the death toll. That puts the burden of proof on Iran that their number is right.
10x doesn’t seem too far off. It’s like the number of rapes being notoriously higher than the number of reported rapes.
There are a lot of people worried about a large death toll being used to justify foreign intervention. Meanwhile, another uprising in Iran is being put down so their benevolent and wise rulers can hold power for another decade or two.
Do you believe over 700,000 Palestinians have been murdered by Israel?
It’s not out of the question, given Israel puts the number at 70,000 and stifles independent investigation.
Murder is a loaded term, though.
Take a remedial English course with an emphasis on rhetoric.
Go on and provide them.
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That revolution comes at the right time for all turmoil in the US.
virtually certain.
That and Trump needs a distraction from Epstein.
Wait, this in Iran? You could forgiven if you thought it was in the US.
Not really. I get you’re using hyperbole here, but this kind of attitude is dangerous.
Scale matters. Every country is guilty of wronging its people. That doesn’t make all countries or all acts equal. If you can draw false equivalence between the US and Iran, then you can draw false equivalence between Norway and North Korea.
The US hasn’t crushed protests like China and Iran. What the US has done is very bad, but that just makes what’s described here as horrific instead.
I had to assume you were referencing the recent ICE killings. If you’re a Good Ol’ Boy still sore about being on the losing side of the Civil War, then I can see your point.
- documented foreign interference by CIA
- long history of documented lies by US media and officials
- Epstein files with high officials discussion on how to loot countries after revolution before they happen.
Why these countries crush protester We didn’t kill as much domestic protester as these countries yet
