That’s not 60% of all voters. That’s 60% of people who aren’t Democrats. Which is already a minority of voters. Trump needs 90% of his base because he gets 0% of everyone else.
Think about it. He got half the vote. Now he is getting a disapproval rating from more than half of that half. If that holds true they are going to lose every single race in the mid terms and for the foreseeable future.
lose every single race in the mid terms and for the foreseeable future.
don’t be too sure. they’ve spent every waking moment since 2020 taking over election boards, gerrymandering, and otherwise double-re-fucking the election process to try and prevent them ever losing again. in my own state, the state board of elections was promptly overrun by deep R trump loyalists, and have proceeded to cut polling locations in every county in the state, which does literally nothing but hurt the D voter
i wish i was more optimistic, but i’m not the same person i was on 11/4/2024
But they’re assuming they’re base won’t leave when doing those gerrymandering things. This is why he is talking about cancelling midterms. Gerrymandering with no base is worse than no gerrymandering. He’ll lose a bigger area.
included a provision written behind closed doors with no public scrutiny that would make it easier for judges to throw out election results. Under the plan, losing candidates would no longer have to prove that individual fraudulent votes swung the election but rather that the number of allegedly fraudulent votes exceeded the margin of victory
Other GOP-controlled states have already changed their laws to make it easier to void election results. As part of its sweeping voter suppression law, Georgia’s heavily gerrymandered legislature removed Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger as the chair and a voting member of the state election board after he rebuffed Trump’s attempt to overturn Joe Biden’s victory. The legislature will now appoint a majority of board members, and the board, in turn, can take over up to four county election boards it deems “underperforming”—raising the prospect that Republicans could assume control of election operations in heavily Democratic areas like Atlanta’s Fulton County. In concert with a provision allowing right-wing groups to mount an unlimited number of challenges to voter eligibility, these changes will make it easier for Republicans to contest close elections and possibly overturn the results.
long story short: the end goal was always to make it so that state election boards (all R, of course) can just call the winner, regardless of the actual voting results
But those state election boards have to survive too. They have to live amongst the people that hate what’s going on? I’m not sure. I’m also not saying you’re wrong. I just don’t know.
have to live amongst the people that hate what’s going on?
i don’t think so. you don’t attain to a position that high in the state government without having resources/connections (read fucktons of money), which means you don’t have to live around or even look at the poors
progressive people want someone who’s smarter than themselves to lead. conservatives want someone who’s exactly as dumb as they are. which is, as you say: really really fucking pants-on-head stupid
this is also why words like “progress,” “education,” “expert,” even “science” have become pejoratives to them
That’s not quite it either. It’s 60% of independent voters, so it also doesn’t include MAGA. It’s the swing voters, which happen to be the only voters who really matter.
But, fortunately for the GOP, they’re also easily swayed by the “both sides” narratives and can be disillusioned into staying home instead of voting. It’s why voter turnout is one of the biggest predictors in whether the Dems or the GOP will win an election. Independent voters have trended more leftward in recent elections because the GOP is fucking insane.
Technically several states don’t even have party registration, mine included (that changed after I first registered to vote so I’m not sure what my registration looks like now, I can’t change it if I wanted to), which has the effect of making everyone in the state an independent voter.
So while ideologically it may be true that there are no undecided voters, that’s not really what they are looking at.
I’ll disagree here. I’m one of those mythical independent voters. I have no party affiliation, and subscribe to Jefferson’s philosophy:
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in any thing else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.
However, most conservatives see me as a lefty, because most of my views, especially on social issues, are consistent with left-wing policies.
That’s not 60% of all voters. That’s 60% of people who aren’t Democrats. Which is already a minority of voters. Trump needs 90% of his base because he gets 0% of everyone else.
Think about it. He got half the vote. Now he is getting a disapproval rating from more than half of that half. If that holds true they are going to lose every single race in the mid terms and for the foreseeable future.
don’t be too sure. they’ve spent every waking moment since 2020 taking over election boards, gerrymandering, and otherwise double-re-fucking the election process to try and prevent them ever losing again. in my own state, the state board of elections was promptly overrun by deep R trump loyalists, and have proceeded to cut polling locations in every county in the state, which does literally nothing but hurt the D voter
i wish i was more optimistic, but i’m not the same person i was on 11/4/2024
But they’re assuming they’re base won’t leave when doing those gerrymandering things. This is why he is talking about cancelling midterms. Gerrymandering with no base is worse than no gerrymandering. He’ll lose a bigger area.
it’s not just the votes
long story short: the end goal was always to make it so that state election boards (all R, of course) can just call the winner, regardless of the actual voting results
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/14-gop-controlled-states-have-passed-laws-to-impede-free-elections/
But those state election boards have to survive too. They have to live amongst the people that hate what’s going on? I’m not sure. I’m also not saying you’re wrong. I just don’t know.
i don’t think so. you don’t attain to a position that high in the state government without having resources/connections (read fucktons of money), which means you don’t have to live around or even look at the poors
Well, most of them are really really stupid, so there’s that.
progressive people want someone who’s smarter than themselves to lead. conservatives want someone who’s exactly as dumb as they are. which is, as you say: really really fucking pants-on-head stupid
this is also why words like “progress,” “education,” “expert,” even “science” have become pejoratives to them
That’s not quite it either. It’s 60% of independent voters, so it also doesn’t include MAGA. It’s the swing voters, which happen to be the only voters who really matter.
But, fortunately for the GOP, they’re also easily swayed by the “both sides” narratives and can be disillusioned into staying home instead of voting. It’s why voter turnout is one of the biggest predictors in whether the Dems or the GOP will win an election. Independent voters have trended more leftward in recent elections because the GOP is fucking insane.
There is no such thing as an independent in the United States. It has been code for “conservative” for decades and its a core part of Trumps base.
Technically several states don’t even have party registration, mine included (that changed after I first registered to vote so I’m not sure what my registration looks like now, I can’t change it if I wanted to), which has the effect of making everyone in the state an independent voter.
So while ideologically it may be true that there are no undecided voters, that’s not really what they are looking at.
I’ll disagree here. I’m one of those mythical independent voters. I have no party affiliation, and subscribe to Jefferson’s philosophy:
However, most conservatives see me as a lefty, because most of my views, especially on social issues, are consistent with left-wing policies.