• circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Citizens United was a tipping point. If corporations are people and can give without limit to political campaigns, then only corporate choices will win. The others won’t even make the ballot. It is 100% a fix.

    Was there democracy before Citizens United? Maybe. Certainly more than now.

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      This is exactly what people said would happen when citizen united happened yet nobody did anything yonstopmor reverse it. It’s not like Democrats didn’t have the option to do so, they just didn’t care either

      What the US needs is a parliamentary democracy

      That is, besides it needing to break up into 50 independent countries because it’s obvious by now that a few of the states are dead set of fucking everyone else over just to ensure their racism, bigotry, and religion gets forced down everyone’s throat everywhere.

      Let it break in into independent states, and the red states will turn into third world banana republic dictatorships within a few years and won’t be able to feed their own population. They’ll get what they want for themselves and the rest of the US states can independently continue becoming civilized nations.

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      I’m not super knowledgeable on American donation laws, are there limits to how much a “person” can donate to a campaign? In Canada, it’s limited to around CAD$3000-$5000 but I guess if corporations (sorry, “people”), can dump tons of cash into campaigns it means there’s no limit in the US?

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        It does.

        However, corporations are not people when it comes to consequences.

        It’s yet another classic example of socialize the risk, privatize the profit.

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          This. Corporations on paper should have consequences like a person. In practice, they can do whatever they want, because the US Government worships capitalism. More so than the people.

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            If corporations are people, they should be able to be given the death sentance. I can think of a few that are directly responsible for the deaths of a lot of people, and all they had to do was pay some fines/lawsuits. DuPont comes to mind.

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            I honestly might make a non-profit that just makes everyone resisting this regime into a corporate entity.

            I’ma dumb-fuck so help is needed.

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              Fun idea, unfortunately what empowers those corporations, besides the system they thrive in, is the fact that they have immense wealth commandeered by a select few, not their sole legal status.

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        There are limits on how much can be donated to a campaign and how hidden those amounts and donors can be to an extent. But there are no limits on how much somebody not associated or affiliated with the campaign can spend on messaging for the campaign. This is where Super PACs and dark money come in.