DEI is nowhere near as serious, a white male will have the advantage in the next job they apply for.
The problem with false accusations being trusted without evidence, is that it can ruin peoples lives.
I know it’s not the PURPOSE of MeeToo, but I’ve seen this results in many cases. Especially people being fired on mere accusations without evidence. Sometimes on things dating back 10 and 20 years, and sometimes despite the accused had many other women he had worked with vouching for him.
People (managements) probably don’t do this because they are evil, but because they are afraid that if they don’t kick out the “evil” man, they will face a shit-storm of bad PR.
We had a case here in Denmark, where such a firing of a TV host was based on a lawyer investigation, and after about 10 years in courts, it was final decided by our supreme court that the investigation was flawed and performed contrary to good practices. And the lawyer was later judged in civil court based on this to pay compensation.
But the man had not been able to find himself a job for 10 years because of that “investigation”. This was a DIRECT result of MeeToo which was revealed both the female management and the female lawyer were strongly supporting.
There are a lot of wackos out there, and they are absolutely not all men. Just see for instance Amber Heard.
Ten years ago I was a bit Reddit commenter. I saw the left’s YouTube videos, I saw how all the subs there became echo chambers, banning anyone who dared have an opinion that wasn’t left of Stalingrad.
I remember because the years ago I repeatedly warned people. Where do you think that these pretty normal people will go? They’ll go to more welcoming places like dat right fora, and get radicalized into the right.
That is my accusation to the left: you fucked up badly by pushing out anyone who just wanted to have a conversation instead of agreeing without question.
You pushed these people right into the camp of a then bumbling idiot who had some charisma and who tirelessly complained about these stupid leftist antics that they hated too, so they joined team trump.
The movement definitely created a chilling effect. A lot of guys now are simply afraid to talk to women in public. Everyone walks around in their own bubble. It’s incredibly lonely and isolating.
As for whether we should judge anything based on intent or on outcome, that’s a complicated question in itself. I’m afraid too many like to judge their friends/allies on intent but their opponents/enemies on outcome, always taking the least charitable interpretation. That’s altogether human, of course.
“For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law.”
I still question if that chilling effect was actually the movement or the fascist/conservative spin put on it to radicalize young men. It’s practically identical to the anti-feminist propaganda that conservative political groups have been using for decades.
One could also downvote this because you disagree with the characterization.
DEI is nowhere near as serious, a white male will have the advantage in the next job they apply for.
The problem with false accusations being trusted without evidence, is that it can ruin peoples lives.
I know it’s not the PURPOSE of MeeToo, but I’ve seen this results in many cases. Especially people being fired on mere accusations without evidence. Sometimes on things dating back 10 and 20 years, and sometimes despite the accused had many other women he had worked with vouching for him.
People (managements) probably don’t do this because they are evil, but because they are afraid that if they don’t kick out the “evil” man, they will face a shit-storm of bad PR.
We had a case here in Denmark, where such a firing of a TV host was based on a lawyer investigation, and after about 10 years in courts, it was final decided by our supreme court that the investigation was flawed and performed contrary to good practices. And the lawyer was later judged in civil court based on this to pay compensation.
But the man had not been able to find himself a job for 10 years because of that “investigation”. This was a DIRECT result of MeeToo which was revealed both the female management and the female lawyer were strongly supporting.
There are a lot of wackos out there, and they are absolutely not all men. Just see for instance Amber Heard.
Ten years ago I was a bit Reddit commenter. I saw the left’s YouTube videos, I saw how all the subs there became echo chambers, banning anyone who dared have an opinion that wasn’t left of Stalingrad.
I remember because the years ago I repeatedly warned people. Where do you think that these pretty normal people will go? They’ll go to more welcoming places like dat right fora, and get radicalized into the right.
That is my accusation to the left: you fucked up badly by pushing out anyone who just wanted to have a conversation instead of agreeing without question.
You pushed these people right into the camp of a then bumbling idiot who had some charisma and who tirelessly complained about these stupid leftist antics that they hated too, so they joined team trump.
And here we are today.
The movement definitely created a chilling effect. A lot of guys now are simply afraid to talk to women in public. Everyone walks around in their own bubble. It’s incredibly lonely and isolating.
As for whether we should judge anything based on intent or on outcome, that’s a complicated question in itself. I’m afraid too many like to judge their friends/allies on intent but their opponents/enemies on outcome, always taking the least charitable interpretation. That’s altogether human, of course.
“For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law.”
I still question if that chilling effect was actually the movement or the fascist/conservative spin put on it to radicalize young men. It’s practically identical to the anti-feminist propaganda that conservative political groups have been using for decades.