• kata1yst@sh.itjust.works
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    16 hours ago

    Those are great numbers to bandy about, but they’re different from being here and participating in the local politics.

    Like many other blue states and many other places worldwide we’re suffering from a resurgence of right wing authoritarianism and political disenfranchisement.

    But we’re actively fighting it, and winning. And doing far better than most other blue states.

    We have a free school lunch program, we have excellent social programs, we have sanctuary status firmly in place for reproductive and trans rights.

    Walz stepping back from the Governor seat is local politics inside the DFL. He’s been a lightning rod of hatred for our red/purple voters since COVID, and after being party to an honestly embarrassing loss on the national stage seems a good time to transfer power, despite his fantastic successes.

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      15 hours ago

      Okay, no, see, that’s all nice, and I’m glad you’re apparently doing well at a local level and fighting back against far-right authoritarianism, but words have meanings, and the numbers you can pretend all you want aren’t relevant don’t lie: you’re not even approximately a “solid blue state”.

      • 2011: Senate 29–37 DFL–Republican; House 61–72
      • 2013: Senate 39–28; House 62–72
      • 2015: Senate 39–28; House 61–73
      • 2017: Senate 32–34–1(V); House 55–75
      • 2019: Senate 30–35–2(I); House 75–55–4(NR)
      • 2021: Senate 31–34–2(I); House 69–59–4(NR)–1(IR)–1(I)
      • 2023: Senate 34–33; House 69–64
      • 2025: Senate 34–33; House 65–67–2(V)
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        15 hours ago

        Blue State has a generally accepted meaning of ‘votes blue in the presidential election’.

        Doesn’t mean that 100% of our politics is democratic.

        Are you arguing this for any particular reason?

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          15 hours ago

          Are you arguing this for any particular reason?

          Because I think you completely missed the word “solid” or don’t understand what that means in terms of politics (nor do I think you fully understand what “blue state” means, because no, that doesn’t just apply to the presidential election, although that is a big part and is heavily correlated).

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              15 hours ago

              … Is this a joke?

              • California
              • Oregon
              • New Mexico
              • Washington
              • Colorado
              • Illinois
              • Vermont (preempting “but the governor!!” by saying you know you’re arguing in bad faith if you think he’s not a bizarre exception)
              • New York
              • Massachussetts
              • Rhode Island
              • Connecticut
              • New Jersey
              • Maryland
              • Delaware
              • Hawaii

              And some of those like “New Mexico” I wouldn’t even call “solid blue”. Dude, you can still be proud of your state and acknowledge reality.

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                14 hours ago

                Funny that NJ is often called a purple state (for a few very good reasons) but the state legislature is basically 2:1 democrat to Republican

                I’m not sure how you’re getting downvoted, I think people are just determined to be wrong

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                  13 hours ago

                  Sometimes when I get upvoted on here (and got upvoted back on Reddit), I feel compelled to ask myself if it’s because I’ve made a cogent point or if it’s because I said something that people want to be true authoritatively enough and got lucky with the upvote ratio early on. It’s frustrating sometimes, and I don’t really know what to do about it.

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                    12 hours ago

                    I miss forums and such where votes didn’t exist and you simply commented or not

                    But I do understand how when too many people begin using the thing votes clear up a lot the message boards that would otherwise just be agreement and whatnot

                    To your point: it’s always a new and random mix of both making a good point and saying what people want to hear. Just gotta not really care