• Clot@lemmy.zipOP
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    12 hours ago

    yup. Whats wrong exactly? Do you expect everyone to produce for you so you could eat and sleep? You know despite that people had choice to what kind of work will they do right?

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      11 hours ago

      I imagine it’s the same problem as how some places today are making homelessness illegal without providing the means for everyone to get a home.

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        10 hours ago

        Point is soviet did provide homes as homes were for living and not for landlords to make peofit, understand?

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          10 hours ago

          How’s that relevant here? We’re talking about jobs, not homes. I’m comparing the Soviet job situation to some present day homelessness situations.

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            9 hours ago

            The point is soviet had means of work for everyone.

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      11 hours ago

      As long as there were open positions in your profession. If not, you would just be assigned something.

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          And when they don’t qualify for any available jobs or there simply isn’t any work and thus no jobs anywhere because jobs don’t grow on trees, you give people the job of sitting at a desk for eight hours a day doing nothing while their mental health crumbles away. Jolly good.

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            9 hours ago

            Wrong, you reduce the working hours so everyone can have jobs, 8 hours isnt necessary. USSR had the most worker favoring labour laws for a reason.

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              9 hours ago

              So the goal is simply to tick everybody’s “has job” box, not such unnecessary things as “earns enough to afford food and shelter” or “is fulfilled by job” (edit:) or even “has useful job”.

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                7 hours ago

                Because in soviet union you had food and shelter. No matter which job they did, idk what part if this is problematic or non understandable

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                  If I understand correctly, you said that jobs should be mandatory even if they serve no purpose. However, Marxist theory argues differently. It calls for work that contributes to human betterment. When implementing this, some Soviet policies took an extreme approach. Authorities often prioritized statistics (for example, full-employment targets) and sometimes created make-work or nominal positions.(as mentioned in the messages above) As a result, policy often prioritized employment statistics over the actual human and social benefits of work.