• Lka1988@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    These morons have been brainwashed to visualize life-saving immunizations as “scary unfeeling doctor man forced poison into my sweet innocent baby”.

    And they just eat it the fuck up.

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    As long as its Americans falling for this shit I think the rest of the world can live with some Darwin awards. All of this science and research and you kill yourself by refusing is allowed in my books. Remember were animals and we shouldn’t be saving people who don’t want to be saved.

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    4 hours ago

    oh my satan what a trump title. Seriously this is an old news item so I know what it is about but man it could not be more obfuscated. Its about vitamin k shots.

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    Why do these people even use the hospital for birth if thry are going to fight their standard care? Stay home and no one will bug you about any shots, dumbasses.

  • Concur6053@lemmy.today
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    7 hours ago

    If they’re not trying to stop others from getting what’s needed, I see no problem. In fact, I see a solution

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      6 hours ago

      Conservatives have shown, time and again, that they won’t stop at simply refusing treatment for themselves. They want to make sure that everyone lives according to their beliefs.

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        We can deal with that bridge when we cross it, but until then I’m all ears on a better option for the current issue

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          It’s easy:

          Your kid doesn’t get to participate in any public services (school, for instance) if they are not vaccinated - no non-medical exceptions. And it is illegal to refuse to educate your kid.

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              That used to be a thing in a lot of states - admittedly, there were some more exceptions, but generally school districts were reasonably strict about it, as a matter of public and community health. But the antivax movement took a lot of the teeth out of those mandates - so much so that many places in the US have lost their herd immunity as a result of so many idiot parents “doing their own research”.

    • notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip
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      But they are stopping others from getting what’s needed, their own child. Without said child’s consent.

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          I was raised by said conservatives and if I was born thirty years later I’d have been unvaccinated. I don’t have a good answer for you. But you’re condemning a lot of people (that may eventually disagree with their parents!) to a pretty unhealthy existence.

          Maybe consider being a little less gleeful when thinking about dead kids, even if their parents are assholes.

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            Sounds like we had similar upbringings. Never said I had a good answer, I just answered. These people live to defy the common good if they’re told it will hurt the people they’ve been trained to hate. Do you really think trying to force them to do the right thing won’t result in them resisting even more? That that approach doesn’t result in even more of those children dying? It’s by no means what I want, so please don’t conflate that with me acknowledging this reality in a cynical tone. I’m talking about members of my family who feel this way, you think I don’t personally understand the consequence of what I’m suggesting?

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          What you proposed is straight up eugenics. To you, letting babies die preventable deaths because their parents are idiots isn’t a problem, it’s a solution to idiots.

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            Again; I’m open to better options. IDK if you’re american or not, but I am. I live in the american south. I deal with these people on a daily basis. They’re not worth tolerating. It’s not lost on me that their children are innocent, but I’m open to suggestions on how to convince them that giving up some of their personal freedom for the greater good is the best path forward, because the vast majority wouldn’t even put on a mask during COVID to help others. They’ll happily let their kids die to preserve their idea of ‘freedom’. How do propose getting them to voluntarily help their children?

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              Good thing they aren’t the final arbiter of truth, the all knowing, omniscient, all powerful enforcer of that which is true and just. But you aren’t either, so its good that you also don’t have that power.

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              Simple, you don’t convince them. You give them no choice and impose penalties for not doing it.

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                I’m sure rfk jr’s brain worm will jump right on that plan. You must not live in america, right?

                • village604@adultswim.fan
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                  No, I’m American. I didn’t say it was a likely thing to happen, just that it’s a simple fix.