I’m asking for public policy ideas here. A lot of countries are enacting age verification now. But of course this is a privacy nightmare and is ripe for abuse. At the same time though, I also understand why people are concerned with how kids are using social media. These products are designed to be addictive and are known to cause body image issues and so forth. So what’s the middle ground? How can we protect kids from the harms of social media in a way that respects everyone’s privacy?

  • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
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    4 hours ago

    Ask yourself why you’re on Lemmy instead of Reddit, or FB, or Twitter.

    Privacy is a big reason.

    How do you even expect a decentralised service run by hobbyists to even implement age-ID in the first place?

    However, the big tech companies are not asking your permission to spy on you, as has been proved by the Guthrie case.

    Yes, but again, they do not have my face or my actual ID. They can make a profile from my posts and it would resemble what I believe but in theory, after long posting on Lemmy or Piefed - they could implement tools to do the same thing.

    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      Yes, they do.

      If you haven’t given it, your neighbor’s doorbell has. If you’ve used a search engine, you’ve been recorded. If you have a smart phone, they know absolutely everything about you.

      You do not have privacy anymore if you are using electronics equipped with a wireless connection.

      It’s silly to pretend that an ID requirement is endangering your privacy when you live in a world where you are constantly tracked.

      But the bigger evil is the effect social media has on developing young brains, so I’m fine with an ID requirement as a means of locking children out, until a better solution presents itself

      • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
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        4 hours ago

        If you haven’t given it, your neighbor’s doorbell has. If you’ve used a search engine, you’ve been recorded. If you have a smart phone, they know absolutely everything about you.

        We’re talking specifically about my face as provided by me via my own social media accounts.

        I’d still like to know how you think this is remotely enforceable on the Fediverse, much less all websites. How can people here even afford it?

        • ageedizzle@piefed.caOPEnglish
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          11 minutes ago

          I’d still like to know how you think this is remotely enforceable on the Fediverse

          I’m not necessarily advocating for ID verification, but to answer your question: most instances require an application to join anyway, so this could simply be tacked ontop.

          From what I understand aussie.zone already does something like this. To join, apparently they require a picture of you at a bar with a beer to prove that you’re over 18. Not a perfect method but procedurally not that different from checking IDs.