It’s literally in every display you see in the world. OEMs stopped fucking with Windows years ago.
Go to any fast food restaurants with those vertical displays? Linux.
Check-in kiosks that have been deployed in the past 5 years? Linux.
Your router, most platforms you interact with online, media devices, cars (they should be using RTOS, but many use Debian), movie theaters, POS systems…
Linux is the most deployed OS on this planet by far. I’m kind of annoyed when people don’t realize this.
I actually hate when engineers are just letting a desktop sit like this. It’s sloppy and unnecessary.
for some reason, all these devices i see around these days seem to run android (one of 5/6/7/8 based on the exposed ui) or win10… haven’t seen any linux desktop-ish thing here
The display in the underground trains of Munich and Nuremberg still uses windows. It’s such a pet peeve of mine, why would they pay for a license for such a simple use case?
They probably paid for some long ago, and don’t want to pay again for updated versions of everything. They could probably even get away running stuff on Wine 🤣
Otherwise they’re an easy target for some fines, I think. It’s rather they pay the licence and nobody cares the money is wasted. And funnelled to the US, instead of staying locally.
I imagine an IT technician running around pressing keys on real physical keyboards connected to all machines, instead of connecting via ssh, or even using Ansible.
Well, then they hire based on paying the lowest, then yeah, you get amateurs who don’t know shit. Can’t tell you how many situations I’ve encountered in environments like government, educational, etc. facilities where I.T. is run by the cheapest labor available. And the net result is everything runs piecemeal and haphazardly. Oh, and the average user has WAY too much privilege because they have no idea how to properly restrict access. I see it often.
I’m willing to cry over all this, I cannot understand why it works like that. It’s not cheaper, and even if you’re optimising costs, it’s still cheaper to hire one competent guy than ten incompetent ones.
You’re being logical. And you’re looking at the big picture. In budget allocated resources, they can only look at their own small box, and not think on a larger scale. Also, the people making these decisions are usually dimwits too.
Yeah this was what I was trying to get across to the other reply here. That tech is probably using VNC or something, rather than a shell over ssh. And they follow what I imagine are very bad docs from whoever built this thing, click on this, click on that, click loop video, click enable fullscreen.
And that was probably a requirement for the devs to deliver it that way. Because they know what kind of techs that customer hires to maintain these things. And anyone comfortable with Linux and the CLI is not applying for this technician job. (lol I’m making a lot of assumptions here. AITA?) This is the story I have created in my mind about this broken kiosk and I’m sticking to it.
I disagree. Using a DE is more ‘intuitive’, but using CLI commands I way easier and effective, if you know the commands. A couple of scripts can run on cron schedules and you can just forget about it until it breaks (if it ever breaks).
For a dev/engineer/linux user, I agree. For the IT technician who probably mostly works with Windows fixing printer drivers, who every now and then has to go change the ad content on the kiosks, he probably curses “that damn Linux” every time. I’m betting for him the CLI is not easier.
The transit information around here is all running some janky ass kernel from 20 years ago, and sure, it works, until it don’t. I appreciate the effort and all, but damn I wish they’d take shit more seriously.
It’s literally in every display you see in the world. OEMs stopped fucking with Windows years ago.
Go to any fast food restaurants with those vertical displays? Linux.
Check-in kiosks that have been deployed in the past 5 years? Linux.
Your router, most platforms you interact with online, media devices, cars (they should be using RTOS, but many use Debian), movie theaters, POS systems…
Linux is the most deployed OS on this planet by far. I’m kind of annoyed when people don’t realize this.
I actually hate when engineers are just letting a desktop sit like this. It’s sloppy and unnecessary.
for some reason, all these devices i see around these days seem to run android (one of 5/6/7/8 based on the exposed ui) or win10… haven’t seen any linux desktop-ish thing here
ATMs? Why, Windoge, of course! What could possibly go wrong!
It is not all Linux, some are BSD based, like a lot of routerOSs
The display in the underground trains of Munich and Nuremberg still uses windows. It’s such a pet peeve of mine, why would they pay for a license for such a simple use case?
They probably paid for some long ago, and don’t want to pay again for updated versions of everything. They could probably even get away running stuff on Wine 🤣
Bold of you to assume they are paying for a license
I saw this windows-based display just last week. Either something went wrong activating it or they don’t pay
they’re probably disconnected from internet, most likely misconfigured kms server or smth
Otherwise they’re an easy target for some fines, I think. It’s rather they pay the licence and nobody cares the money is wasted. And funnelled to the US, instead of staying locally.
Right, the thing that caught my eye was running a full desktop OS for a sign board.
engineers are just letting
That’s a bold claim cotton, I’m sure there are no project managers, middle managers, or executives involved
As an engineer who actually made one of these systems, can confirm management drove the use of Ubuntu desktop
Tbf it is a lot easier to just leave the DE running than try to tweak a non DE env, especially for media playing.
Also it is probably easier for whatever IT technician to use this thing, update content, do troubleshooting, etc.
I imagine an IT technician running around pressing keys on real physical keyboards connected to all machines, instead of connecting via ssh, or even using Ansible.
Well, then they hire based on paying the lowest, then yeah, you get amateurs who don’t know shit. Can’t tell you how many situations I’ve encountered in environments like government, educational, etc. facilities where I.T. is run by the cheapest labor available. And the net result is everything runs piecemeal and haphazardly. Oh, and the average user has WAY too much privilege because they have no idea how to properly restrict access. I see it often.
I’m willing to cry over all this, I cannot understand why it works like that. It’s not cheaper, and even if you’re optimising costs, it’s still cheaper to hire one competent guy than ten incompetent ones.
You’re being logical. And you’re looking at the big picture. In budget allocated resources, they can only look at their own small box, and not think on a larger scale. Also, the people making these decisions are usually dimwits too.
Yeah this was what I was trying to get across to the other reply here. That tech is probably using VNC or something, rather than a shell over ssh. And they follow what I imagine are very bad docs from whoever built this thing, click on this, click on that, click loop video, click enable fullscreen.
And that was probably a requirement for the devs to deliver it that way. Because they know what kind of techs that customer hires to maintain these things. And anyone comfortable with Linux and the CLI is not applying for this technician job. (lol I’m making a lot of assumptions here. AITA?) This is the story I have created in my mind about this broken kiosk and I’m sticking to it.
I’m totally with you on this!
I disagree. Using a DE is more ‘intuitive’, but using CLI commands I way easier and effective, if you know the commands. A couple of scripts can run on cron schedules and you can just forget about it until it breaks (if it ever breaks).
For a dev/engineer/linux user, I agree. For the IT technician who probably mostly works with Windows fixing printer drivers, who every now and then has to go change the ad content on the kiosks, he probably curses “that damn Linux” every time. I’m betting for him the CLI is not easier.
The transit information around here is all running some janky ass kernel from 20 years ago, and sure, it works, until it don’t. I appreciate the effort and all, but damn I wish they’d take shit more seriously.
I mean if it works, what’s the problem? Do these often break down?
Yep. Even a lot of the cheap little game consoles and shit you get from China run some variety of Linux.