• HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth
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    9 hours ago

    Gaza is almost certainly not the only reason. We also have Latinos for Trump, the Right Wing Podcast pipeline, endemic sexism, and endemic racism to thank.

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      4 hours ago

      Always trying to deflect it back in voters and never the candidates that don’t represent the people that refused to vote for her

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      Expanding on the Latinos for Trump thing, lots of white liberals seem to be shocked at the levels of rightwing support from the Latino population. They speculate (wrongly) that it’s due to Cubans in Florida; and while that group does support the right, it’s not because they remember their time in Cuba and hold a grudge against communism.

      No, the issue is one that has been around a long time now and has been completely ignored because most people don’t speak Spanish. Almost all mainstream Spanish media, from shows, to news, to social media has been far, far, FAR right for decades now. Like, it makes Fox News look like MSNBC.

      And the language barrier is a 2 part issue. Not only are English speaking liberals completely unaware of how bad the propaganda is, but people that are only fluent in Spanish don’t hear any alternatives. All they get is the propaganda, there are no other sources. You tell them about the horrible stuff Trump or the GOP has done and they look at you with a blank face. They don’t hear about it, because it’s never reported for them. And people on Spanish social media tend not to talk about it for the same reason.

      The rot is deep. Very deep. Telemundo and Univision have completely fucked the Latino populace by hiding reality from them and pushing pro-billionaire messaging.

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      We also have Latinos for Trump

      This is a good point. The Democrats also abandoned the idea that immigration was a moral issue or that building the wall was based on racism, and instead tried to run on, “We’re the real border hawks” and it won over approximately zero moderate conservatives while alienating Latinos.

      the Right Wing Podcast pipeline,

      Another good point. Right wing podcasters and streamers are often promoted by the GOP, their politicians will go on their shows, even if they aren’t 100% aligned. The good news is, there is one leftist streamer who has a big audience, on a similar level to some of the big rightist streamers, who could have been used to level the playing field at least a bit. The bad news is, because he supports Palestine, the Democrats wanted nothing to do with him, and completely failed to make use of him or even appeal to him.

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      6 hours ago

      Very few people voted for Trump. He didn’t win.

      Stop blaming voters and focus on fixing the voting system.

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        5 hours ago

        What? Trump has the second and fourth most votes in history in the US, plenty of people voted for him. That’s literally the problem, that 77 million people could sign up up vote for this guy post covid fuck up.

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          Based on his track record if I only viewed things through the lens of “What can you do for me?” then Trump should have lost. His first term was a travesty and the COVID lack of response a showing of his incompetence. But some of those voters still voted for him despite this and it confounds me how.

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            Several things happened. One, he picked the most vulnerable swing states and focused on those, and delivered exactly the message people wanted to hear. Second, Harris in those same states instead of telling people what they wanted to hear, told them she wasn’t trump, and paraded out unpopular conservatives to try to swing right leaning voters her direction. Instead of finding a massage to give people a good reason to vote for her, she leaned pretty hard on “well have you seen this other guy??”

            People crave motion and action. So in those few states she got her ass handed to her. The rest of the country largely voted along the lines it always has. Democrats learned nothing from Obama’s victory or Clinton’s loss, they thought they’d successfully turned the tide after Biden swept up a fucking disaster and then went on to make a half hearted attempt at badly needed though still unpopular debt relief. Then he took too much cold medicine before a debate and got his ass handed to him.

            Most people aren’t thinking much beyond the roof over their head and the food on their table. If Democrats can’t make those two things easier, the guys with a bad plan looks better than the guys without one at all.