Progressives acknowledging the fact of genocide is a good first step, and it’s useful that Ocasio-Cortez and others have done so — “I think [unconditional aid to Israel] enabled a genocide in Gaza,” she said in Munich — but it is not in and of itself sufficient. Before anyone in the party can move on to selling a post-Biden vision of human-rights-first foreign policy, they must address what accountability for the war criminals in the Biden administration — those who aided, armed, and funded genocide — should look like.

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    Hey, outside view from those of us in Europe… Just get on with getting the Orange Man out, please.

    You’ll get far further dealing with the Democrats once that’s happened.

    But until that point, just concentrate on getting the actual genocidal fascist gone.

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      I don’t agree. Just getting him gone will not stop the next Bush-lite from entering the arena and manufacturing full consent to go kill millions more in foreign countries. The individuals that need motivated and educated are the Nimby’s (Not-in-my-back-yard, as in, “I don’t care what you do but just don’t do it near me”), this doesn’t happen till shit is shoved into their faces and they’re forced to deal with it.

      The average citizen is now feeling the economic hardships and the authoritarian boot of what the united states is. This is a festering wound almost a century old that keeps getting worse, it’s now showing on our face so it’s harder to dismiss. Anything being done to our populace or yours has been done 100x more extreme in the name of USA. For every Renee Good, there are millions who were murdered in the same way in their own country by a foreign presence.

      The civil rights movement in the states didn’t concentrate on one elected official, it also didn’t ask for an opposition party to come and save them if they could just “vote blue no matter who”. If the Dem’s actually pushed for repercussions and legal action I would feel differently, but they decided to do nothing and hand waved excuses of why they couldn’t be bothered. I’ve given my vote to them my whole life, I’m feeling the tug of time and I don’t want to spend the rest of it just hoping they decide to do differently one day (which they aren’t even saying they will either).

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      Exactly, thank you. Glad to know some actual functioning brainpower exists out there.

      The alt-left handed power to murderous scum out of spite. I will never forgive or forget that.

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        Those weren’t Kamala’s constituents. She only wanted genocide supporters voting for her. People of conscience were no more her constituents than random Republicans. She just had a shit coalition. Why are you blaming her failures on uninvolved third parties?