• D_C@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Question:
    Is the plan to make it so only very rich and poor people have kids?

    The reasoning behind my question is that rich people are generally selfish and thus will vote in a selfish way. And poor people can usually be easily controlled or could be discounted/removed from the voting arena.

    I realise I’m generalising here.
    But the reasoning is there, if they ‘wipe out’ the generation of people who usually vote against then that helps, right? Or am I being too fantastical and conspiracy theorist?

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      Generally declining birthrates and specifically the disappearance of the middle class are almost inevitable in late-stage capitalism (the stage where outward expansion is complete, so capitalists must turn their gaze inward and increase exploitation at home). Although, let’s be clear, everyone except the capitalist loses in this scenario, and it will hurt people who are currently in poverty much harder than it will the middle class who are only beginning to drown.

      But there isn’t some conspiracy making this happen. It is only the machinery of the system that makes true the statement, “If I don’t, someone else will.”

      I’m sure many of the educated oligarchs know that this is how the system works. It’s why they’re all building bunkers. It doesn’t need a shadowy cabal in a smoky room, though. Profit inventivizes all.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The plan is to pillage the wealth of the local population via insane asset prices and extreme rentierism around essentials such as housing and then when you start to feel the impact from decades of lower birthrates because of living in such a dystopioa, importing young adults from countries with higher birth rates - i.e. immigrants - and have far-right political forces funded by the very people pillaging the country loudly blame said immigrants for the pillaging of the country.

      Certainly this is what I’ve seen in Europe.

    • iglou@programming.dev
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      The plan is dead for a long time now. Capitalism only works if the working poor population gets renewed. They lost track of the plot and focused too much on wealth growth. Now we are in the late stage of capitalism. The stage where it no longer works but they’ll pretend it does until it collapses under their feet.

    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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      The plan is to move all the money to the top 0.1%. Low birthrate is just a side effect of that. The plan was always to fill in the gaps in workforce with illegal immigrants which are cheaper and easier to steal money from. Currently I’m not sure what the plan is. Robots? Abandon manufacturing altogether?