I challenge Lemmy users and everyone else, everywhere else I post, to please, please open up conversation with your maga uncle or neo-liberal parents.
Do not be dumb and try to start an argument, don’t accuse, don’t talk about identity or race or gender or any other issue they’re already distracted with. Just ask if they think this is going to lower their groceries costs, their medical care, ask if they wanted a war with a country they can’t point to on a map (don’t say that) when they supported this administration, and if that’s going to guarantee their social security and investments. Ask if it’s “great again” yet.
Just ask. Just make them work the question and answer out in their head, that’s your ONLY job, just plant the seed of asking how to connect these ideas, it doesn’t even matter if they get mad at you for asking, your job is to make them figure out ways to make this work in their head.
Individually, you can’t usually reach these people, but if enough of us do this all at once, we can start looking at it sociologically, like fluids, like percentages. We can still turn this around broadly, and Trump starting a war his own political-capital base doesn’t want is how we get there so we can actually use this.
Do not be dumb and try to start an argument, don’t accuse, don’t talk about identity or race or gender or any other issue they’re already distracted with.
Take a quick look through these reports from this month alone and then add sooner-than-expected loss of Medicare and Social Security to your arguments.
“Well, Granddad, did you know that the money for all these military actions at home and abroad are depleting your Social Security and Medicare funds far more rapidly than ever before, and that one of the major trusts funding your Social Security is expected to dry up entirely in 2032, only six years from now?”
This alone might rouse them from their stupor: NOTHING gets the Silent Generation and older Boomers up and onto their walkers faster than threats to SS and Medicare.
I feel strongly that one reason a lot of people don’t bother to actually grab sources, is because somewhere inside we know the reality is even worse than our knowledge.
Anyway, thank you, those are great and I appreciate the support on this message, we really can start the pendulum push the other direction, and this is the fulcrum that gets us there.
I definitely agree with asking questions first. I’ve tried to open by explaining how I see things in an effort to get folks to open up and share how they see them, and people are so used to that being an attempt to tell them to think something different they can kinda shut down and get defensive even just from that
Try to get them talking and engage with them sincerely. If we want to fix the problems we have to do the work to build a bigger coalition
I would like to do this. The problem is that these disagreements have become sensitive issues and addressing these topics seems like asking for trouble.
Simply put, how does one approach this topic without inviting an argument? Pointing out the simple items you’ve presented will surely make them defensive to the point of hostility.
I challenge Lemmy users and everyone else, everywhere else I post, to please, please open up conversation with your maga uncle or neo-liberal parents.
Do not be dumb and try to start an argument, don’t accuse, don’t talk about identity or race or gender or any other issue they’re already distracted with. Just ask if they think this is going to lower their groceries costs, their medical care, ask if they wanted a war with a country they can’t point to on a map (don’t say that) when they supported this administration, and if that’s going to guarantee their social security and investments. Ask if it’s “great again” yet.
Just ask. Just make them work the question and answer out in their head, that’s your ONLY job, just plant the seed of asking how to connect these ideas, it doesn’t even matter if they get mad at you for asking, your job is to make them figure out ways to make this work in their head.
Individually, you can’t usually reach these people, but if enough of us do this all at once, we can start looking at it sociologically, like fluids, like percentages. We can still turn this around broadly, and Trump starting a war his own political-capital base doesn’t want is how we get there so we can actually use this.
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Yep, and wars ain’t free.
Take a quick look through these reports from this month alone and then add sooner-than-expected loss of Medicare and Social Security to your arguments.
“Well, Granddad, did you know that the money for all these military actions at home and abroad are depleting your Social Security and Medicare funds far more rapidly than ever before, and that one of the major trusts funding your Social Security is expected to dry up entirely in 2032, only six years from now?”
This alone might rouse them from their stupor: NOTHING gets the Silent Generation and older Boomers up and onto their walkers faster than threats to SS and Medicare.
Medicare
In less than a year, Trump erased 12 years of solvency for the trust fund that pays for Medicare Part A – Fortune.com
Direct link to CBO report on the HI trust fund that backs Medicare:
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/62165
Social Security
Social Security faces earlier depletion date, report finds – USA Today
Direct link to the CBO report on the SS trust funds:
https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2026-02/51309-2026-02-trustfund.pdf
I feel strongly that one reason a lot of people don’t bother to actually grab sources, is because somewhere inside we know the reality is even worse than our knowledge.
Anyway, thank you, those are great and I appreciate the support on this message, we really can start the pendulum push the other direction, and this is the fulcrum that gets us there.
I definitely agree with asking questions first. I’ve tried to open by explaining how I see things in an effort to get folks to open up and share how they see them, and people are so used to that being an attempt to tell them to think something different they can kinda shut down and get defensive even just from that
Try to get them talking and engage with them sincerely. If we want to fix the problems we have to do the work to build a bigger coalition
I would like to do this. The problem is that these disagreements have become sensitive issues and addressing these topics seems like asking for trouble.
Simply put, how does one approach this topic without inviting an argument? Pointing out the simple items you’ve presented will surely make them defensive to the point of hostility.