• mlg@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    You people are severely underestimating Russia’s leverage over the USA, especially compared to Israel.

    If Putin had that much power, he would have used it to keep Syria under Asad.

    This as as tone deaf as claiming Russia blew up their own oil pipeline in some 4d chess move.

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      17 hours ago

      I think you are confused,you write we underestimate how much power Putin has over Trump, and then you write he doesn’t have that much power.
      You are contradicting yourself, so which is it?

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          16 hours ago

          Probably, but he is still confused, because there is a huge difference between keeping Syria under Assad and attacking Iran.
          So I was taking the piss, because he kind of begged for it.

          • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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            15 hours ago

            The point is that Putin does not control Trump. Putin likes Trump and is willing to help him where there’s no conflict with Trump’s interests but Putin doesn’t have to allow Trump to do things.

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              15 hours ago

              Putin likes Trump and is willing to help him where there’s no conflict

              You see the problem there? That’s exactly the problem, because Trump helps Putin over and over again, where there are HUGE conflicts with American interests. While Putin has never compromised anything for Trump. It’s a 100% one way relationship, that has ONLY helped Putin. In that relationship everything Putin does serves Putin alone, everything Trump does also helps Putin.

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                15 hours ago

                Clearly not everything Trump does helps Putin. Attacking Venezuela and Iran does not help Putin at all. You’re confusing American interests with Trump’s interests. I specifically said that Trump is willing to help Putin as long as it doesn’t impact Trump’s interests. Trump will sacrifice Americans for Putin any day but he will not sacrifice his money.

                So as I said: Trump likes Putin and is willing to help him but Putin does not control him.

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          15 hours ago

          I know, I was just making a bit of fun, but it’s probably only me that find it funny. 😋
          I still disagree with you though,and I think your comparison with Syria is way off.
          It would be near impossible for Trump to make a case for suddenly turning 180° after years of supporting a regime change and then suddenly help Assad stay in power, while he can make sort of a case for attacking Iran. And it’s been known that Trump has been very contrarian about Iran, and has already attacked Iran previously where he got away with it.