cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43788035

Graphic content warning: This story contains information about suicide and other graphic themes 

When Mark Epstein heard the news his brother Jeffrey had died by suicide in a Manhattan jail cell, he thought that made sense. Jeffrey wouldn’t want to spend his life locked up. He had no reason to doubt it.

“I fully expected them to come out of the autopsy saying, ‘It’s unfortunate, but Jeffrey committed suicide.’ But that’s not what happened,” he told the ABC.

The independent pathologist who Mark hired to attend the autopsy believed the death looked more like a homicide. The New York deputy assistant medical examiner conducting the autopsy said she required further information before making a ruling.

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    18 hours ago

    I wonder what orange psychopath had him killed??? Such a huuuuge mystery. The biggest, best mystery, like no one has ever seen before. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    15 hours ago

    “Barr, I want the Epstein problem dealt with, bada bing bada bang bada boom. You get me?”

    – Donald Tr*mp, probably

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    23 hours ago

    100% he was killed. Public enemy #1 and all your powerful allies are paranoid you’ll spill everything out of desperation? No way you’re doing your time and no fucking way are you escaping and are ‘still alive’. No one would take the risk harbouring someone who’s lost all their power and influence, and is a liability.

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      22 hours ago

      Exactly. At that point the only leverage he had over anyone was the secrets he held on his elite “friends”. There’s no reason to think he wouldn’t have spilled to save his own skin, so all the more motivation for his elite “friends” to prevent that by force

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      21 hours ago

      unless the secrets were with another agency and that agency wanted to demonstrate to other operatives that they were looked after.

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    22 hours ago

    Wait? … I thought the van came the night before and swapped the bodies? I’m so lost.

    Like the examiner is right, it’s definitely a homicide - but is that the REAL Jeffrey Epstein? Or Geoffrey Epstein?

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      I like the killed his body double and exported him to Israel theory. Ghislaine seems to have a double and it’s not really weird for them to have considering their line if work. Everything seems within the capacity of Bill Barr and Mossad.

      If Epstein isn’t a total idiot he has valuable information that only he has access to. If Ghislaine simply wants Epstein that’s another reason he could be alive. And then there’s the deadman switch you would assume both Epstein and Maxwell have that never went off.

      It really doesn’t add up cleanly any way you look at it.

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      It makes sense they didn’t kill him in place to avoid anyone overhearing or leaving any trace of a struggle.

      They likely told him they would get him out and drove in an ambulance away and took him back when he was dead and strung him up in place.

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        That’s kind of a terrible examples for trying to point out that something is blatantly obvious. Sky colouration can go through an entire spectrum of colours depending on how much atmosphere the light is travelling through, what particles in the air and other atmospheric conditions.

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    17 hours ago

    Who needs foreign pathologists?! We are smarter and have American pathologists who know better! /s

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      19 hours ago

      All of finances, the extent and details of rapes, probably murders, and I assume even more horrors. Maxwell groomed kids for Epstein and occasionally took part in the rape, but for the most part wasn’t in the room, by choice. Maxwell seemed to be far more interested in just living a life of luxury.

      Unfortunately Epstein was the main person who really knew each and every skeleton in all of the closets across the entire global corrupt system. The others who would probably be better informed than Maxwell, like his lawyer and accountant, are very free.

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      16 hours ago

      Ghislaine wasn’t that involved with Epstein in the 2010s. She was mostly complicit in prostitution of minors in the 90s and 00s. In the later years: Epstein upgraded (downgraded?) to Karyna Shuliak, a younger girlfriend and accomplice he imported from Belarus in the 2010s.