Put simply, a large cohort of mental health providers will look at anyone asking about ADHD as if they are lying and just fishing for a prescription for stimulants. Especially if you look like you’re college age. So if you get unlucky with who you see when you finally go to get tested they might just take one look at you and decide “This person is looking for drugs” and ignore literally everything you present with because of it.
no ofc not. I go on lemmy to fucking relax not take your sarcasm. I had to carry an suicidal SO to the psychward, where the fucking guy told me "I’m only handling pure psychiatric cases (aka so i can prescribe pills), then the day afterward I found her unconscious and I had to carry her to the emergency. Fuck you for defending psychiatrists and all the people that suffered because of them.
Obviously I don’t have your entire story, and I’m prepared for you(edit:wanted to change my wording to be less accusatory) to immediately jump down my throat again for “defending psychatrists” for this. But you do know there’s also a chance that they just… didn’t have any more capacity at the ward at that time to provide the kind of care your SO needed right? Which is horrible, and I’m very sorry that the both of you went through that. But not everything is about psychiatrists wanting to push pills. There’s a very real chance that their capacity to care for in-patient suicide risks was maxed out and that really was all they could handle at that time. Would you rather they have taken her into the ward and not had proper supervision on her and something happened to her in there because they took in too many patients?
The healthcare system is deeply flawed, it sucks, there are bad actors all over it. But that doesn’t mean that everyone who shares a specialty with those bad actors is themselves also a bad actor. You might want to find someone to talk to about that experience, because it seems to have really deeply affected you.
The funniest thing to me is you calling me ableist because what? I don’t agree with you and called you out for LARPing at activism? I’m disabled, I’ve got 3 developmentally disabled kids, all with varying degrees of autism and ADHD, my partner is disabled to the point where even if I was personally physically able to work I couldn’t because she needs me available 24/7 to care for her.
Oh but no, I’m talking about engaging with the system as it exists as a neurodivergent person. That obviously must mean my only goal is to perpetuate the current system of wage slavery. Not to idk maybe help some people like me make it through their day without it taking literally every ounce of energy they have just to exist, let alone keep up with any of the demands of living like rent, food, etc.
I like how rather than engaging with the comment where I apologized for the possibility that I might have unintentionally come off as antagonistic during my first reply to you and kickstarted this whole chain of events, you instead decided to go back to a comment you already replied to and just… continue posting through it about how I’m being hurtful and mean.
Maybe you should take a break and find a professional to talk to about all this hon. Or like… take a walk, go pet something fluffy, like… do anything but continue hitting the “Comment” button maybe? Either way, I’m done enabling this. Find someone else to rage at because they disagree with you and then say they’re attacking you when they defend themselves from you calling them an “ableist pos” “stupid cunt” “good slave” and implying that if they were in Rosa Parks’ shoes they’d have moved to the back of the bus just to name a few. Or again, is it okay when you do it because I apparently “attacked you first” when I didn’t even realize I could even have been being antagonistic and even apologized for coming off that way if that was how what I said came off to you.
I hope you can find peace. Because mine’s in the Block button. Have a nice life.
And none of this is my fucking fault. Remember when i said “sorry that happened to you” and tried to find a middle ground and you kept attacking me for no reason?
Kept attacking you? What are you talking about? All I did was ask you what good it does to come into a conversation about the difficulties in getting diagnosed with ADHD and basically just saying “Well maybe we shouldn’t diagnose it like that.” If I came off like I was attacking you, I’m sorry. That wasn’t what I was trying to do there. I was genuinely just confused at what the point was of that comment.
But then the very next thing you did pretty much was to imply that if I was in Rosa Parks’ shoes I’d have moved to the back of the bus. But I guess it’s not attacking people when you’re just “hitting back” huh?
That’s not what i said. I’m fully aware ADHD meds allows some people to simply function, even regardless of the environment.
That being said, it’d be naive to think pharma companies aren’t bribing psychiatrists on a daily basis. Medicalizing neurodivergence is problematic in its own right.
Come on buddy we’re all friends here, don’t sarcasm me, please :)
Then think about what you’re saying. If you actually believe that medication can be helpful, but then you go around saying things that can be easily misconstrued as “Half of them will ignore you, and the other half are shills for big pharma you shouldn’t trust them,” how can those two things coexist? How can you not see that those words are going to lead to people just deciding against even attempting to get on medication even if they might be among the group that it helps to not suffer in a society built around the convenience and function of neurotypicals?
So you don’t actually believe that medication can help people with ADHD at all, got it. There’s no other reason for you to make a disingenuous comparison like that. You can just say it, you aren’t going to hurt my feelings hon.
Unlike you, i’m not trying to hurt anybody’s feeling. You deeply hurt mine though, and you clearly don’t care. I tried to be nice to you and you kept being hurtful.
You’re just a mean person buddy. Nothing to do with pills or mental disease.
Put simply, a large cohort of mental health providers will look at anyone asking about ADHD as if they are lying and just fishing for a prescription for stimulants. Especially if you look like you’re college age. So if you get unlucky with who you see when you finally go to get tested they might just take one look at you and decide “This person is looking for drugs” and ignore literally everything you present with because of it.
And the rest of that cohort will blindly oblige as big pharma’s paying for their holiday. I have no trust in psychiatrists tbh
Ah yes, because it’s totally impossible that medication can help people with ADHD cope with a world that was set up for them to fail.
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no ofc not. I go on lemmy to fucking relax not take your sarcasm. I had to carry an suicidal SO to the psychward, where the fucking guy told me "I’m only handling pure psychiatric cases (aka so i can prescribe pills), then the day afterward I found her unconscious and I had to carry her to the emergency. Fuck you for defending psychiatrists and all the people that suffered because of them.
Obviously I don’t have your entire story, and I’m prepared for you(edit:wanted to change my wording to be less accusatory) to immediately jump down my throat again for “defending psychatrists” for this. But you do know there’s also a chance that they just… didn’t have any more capacity at the ward at that time to provide the kind of care your SO needed right? Which is horrible, and I’m very sorry that the both of you went through that. But not everything is about psychiatrists wanting to push pills. There’s a very real chance that their capacity to care for in-patient suicide risks was maxed out and that really was all they could handle at that time. Would you rather they have taken her into the ward and not had proper supervision on her and something happened to her in there because they took in too many patients?
The healthcare system is deeply flawed, it sucks, there are bad actors all over it. But that doesn’t mean that everyone who shares a specialty with those bad actors is themselves also a bad actor. You might want to find someone to talk to about that experience, because it seems to have really deeply affected you.
The funniest thing to me is you calling me ableist because what? I don’t agree with you and called you out for LARPing at activism? I’m disabled, I’ve got 3 developmentally disabled kids, all with varying degrees of autism and ADHD, my partner is disabled to the point where even if I was personally physically able to work I couldn’t because she needs me available 24/7 to care for her.
Oh but no, I’m talking about engaging with the system as it exists as a neurodivergent person. That obviously must mean my only goal is to perpetuate the current system of wage slavery. Not to idk maybe help some people like me make it through their day without it taking literally every ounce of energy they have just to exist, let alone keep up with any of the demands of living like rent, food, etc.
How is it funny? You’re being hurtful and mean and jump on my throat for expressing something I lived through. I’m not launghing. I’m sad
I like how rather than engaging with the comment where I apologized for the possibility that I might have unintentionally come off as antagonistic during my first reply to you and kickstarted this whole chain of events, you instead decided to go back to a comment you already replied to and just… continue posting through it about how I’m being hurtful and mean.
Maybe you should take a break and find a professional to talk to about all this hon. Or like… take a walk, go pet something fluffy, like… do anything but continue hitting the “Comment” button maybe? Either way, I’m done enabling this. Find someone else to rage at because they disagree with you and then say they’re attacking you when they defend themselves from you calling them an “ableist pos” “stupid cunt” “good slave” and implying that if they were in Rosa Parks’ shoes they’d have moved to the back of the bus just to name a few. Or again, is it okay when you do it because I apparently “attacked you first” when I didn’t even realize I could even have been being antagonistic and even apologized for coming off that way if that was how what I said came off to you.
I hope you can find peace. Because mine’s in the Block button. Have a nice life.
And none of this is my fucking fault. Remember when i said “sorry that happened to you” and tried to find a middle ground and you kept attacking me for no reason?
Kept attacking you? What are you talking about? All I did was ask you what good it does to come into a conversation about the difficulties in getting diagnosed with ADHD and basically just saying “Well maybe we shouldn’t diagnose it like that.” If I came off like I was attacking you, I’m sorry. That wasn’t what I was trying to do there. I was genuinely just confused at what the point was of that comment.
But then the very next thing you did pretty much was to imply that if I was in Rosa Parks’ shoes I’d have moved to the back of the bus. But I guess it’s not attacking people when you’re just “hitting back” huh?
That’s not what i said. I’m fully aware ADHD meds allows some people to simply function, even regardless of the environment.
That being said, it’d be naive to think pharma companies aren’t bribing psychiatrists on a daily basis. Medicalizing neurodivergence is problematic in its own right.
Come on buddy we’re all friends here, don’t sarcasm me, please :)
Then think about what you’re saying. If you actually believe that medication can be helpful, but then you go around saying things that can be easily misconstrued as “Half of them will ignore you, and the other half are shills for big pharma you shouldn’t trust them,” how can those two things coexist? How can you not see that those words are going to lead to people just deciding against even attempting to get on medication even if they might be among the group that it helps to not suffer in a society built around the convenience and function of neurotypicals?
Maybe we could give benzos for free so the woman can bare sexism.
So you don’t actually believe that medication can help people with ADHD at all, got it. There’s no other reason for you to make a disingenuous comparison like that. You can just say it, you aren’t going to hurt my feelings hon.
Unlike you, i’m not trying to hurt anybody’s feeling. You deeply hurt mine though, and you clearly don’t care. I tried to be nice to you and you kept being hurtful.
You’re just a mean person buddy. Nothing to do with pills or mental disease.
Did that occur to you that medication isn’t for everybody? I’ve been prescribed pills and I felt terrible.
There’s nothing to be misconstructed. https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/193nmt1/142_million_in_undisclosed_conflicts_of_interest/
It’s the truth.
There’s a difference between “it’s not for everybody,” and “half of them can’t be trusted and the other half won’t believe you.”