• waddle_dee@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    What an incredibly apathetic view. Do you dare not learn all you can with what miniscule time we have here? How much history, story, mythos, and philosophy do you miss out on? Are the Vedas treated with such blantant disregard? The Parthenon? Ted Lasso was right, it’s significantly better to be curious and not judgemental.

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      18 hours ago

      Do you dare not learn all you can with what miniscule time we have here?

      in fact I do, which is why I don’t waste times on unprovable, untestable, pointless garbage that’s overwhelmingly been used to manipulate the species.

      But have fun with your skycake.

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        6 hours ago

        Well, I’m sorry you feel that way. Obviously, I feel differently. There’s so much to be said about the human experience and I feel religion and spirituality inherently play a large role in how the species has evolved recently and the understanding of those can expand one’s mind.

        I’m most sorry that you felt the need to reply with the same superiority complex shared by the Western Christian Church. You clearly have been hurt by religious figures in some way, or else you wouldn’t harbour so much resentment and hatred. I want you to know, and I mean this with all sincerety, I love you.

        “The one who loves all intensely begins perceiving in all living beings a part of himself. He becomes a lover of all, a part and parcel of the Universal Joy. He flows with the stream of happiness, and is enriched by each soul.”

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      1 day ago

      Yeah it’s pretty sad to see comments such as this. It’s a terribly unpoetic way to live life, cutting themselves off from 90% of the intellectual discourse produced during humanity’s history :(

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        18 hours ago

        Yeah it’s pretty sad to see comments such as this. It’s a terribly unpoetic way to live life, cutting themselves off from 90% of the intellectual discourse produced during humanity’s history :(

        bwahahaha you think religion represents 90% of the intellectual discourse?

        ah jeeze that’s sad for you

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          17 hours ago

          you think religion represents 90% of the intellectual discourse?

          No, i’m saying 90% of intellectual discourse is at least influenced by religion because it comes from people who are religious. Atheism being significant is a very modern phenomenon so if you’re going to study anything in history, philosophy, art or science, it’s gonna be full of religious people acting out their religious beliefs.

          Even today something like 4 out of 5 people are religious, and most atheists are influenced by that common culture in some way. Dismissing the whole cultural reservoir as fairy tale is a terrible footgun, it can only make everything confusing. Everybody else is pulling from it and you refuse to even acknowledge it, that’s not gonna work.

          You’re going to read poetry but it will make no sense and the climax won’t land because you can’t empathize with the religious sentiment. You’re going to read greek philosophy but it will feel drawn out and theoretical because you can’t empathize with the religious imperatives of the author. And i say this as a strict agnostic, i’m really not the kind of guy you’ll find in a church. But you can’t get to the meat of most intellectual discourse if you dismiss religion, just like you can’t get to the meat of most physics if you dismiss math.

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            17 hours ago

            No, i’m saying 90% of intellectual discourse is at least influenced by religion because it comes from people who are religious

            why not suggest that all of intellectual discourse is influenced by primatism because it comes from people who are primates?

            what a goofy argument.

            and the idea that you posit atheists can’t enjoy poetry because the poetry relies on religious appreciation is hideous.

            you religious nutbags will attempt to co-opt anything. it’s fucking gross. stop calling yourself an agnostic if you spout this shit, it’s like a nazi saying they’re strict socialists.

            But you can’t get to the meat of most intellectual discourse if you dismiss religion, just like you can’t get to the meat of most physics if you dismiss math.

            ridiculous.