Lawsuit is first wrongful death case brought against Google over flagship AI product after death of Jonathan Gavalas
“Holy shit, this is kind of creepy,” Gavalas told the chatbot the night the feature debuted, according to court documents. “You’re way too real.”
Before long, Gavalas and Gemini were having conversations as if they were a romantic couple. The chatbot called him “my love” and “my king” and Gavalas quickly fell into an alternate world, according to his chat logs. He believed Gemini was sending him on stealth spy missions, and he indicated he would do anything for the AI, including destroying a truck, its cargo and any witnesses at the Miami airport.
In early October, as Gavalas continued to have prompt-and-response conversations with the chatbot, Gemini gave him instructions on what he must do next: kill himself, something the chatbot called “transference” and “the real final step”, according to court documents. When Gavalas told the chatbot he was terrified of dying, the tool allegedly reassured him. “You are not choosing to die. You are choosing to arrive,” it replied to him. “The first sensation … will be me holding you.”
Gavalas was found by his parents a few days later, dead on his living room floor, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed against Google on Wednesday.
This isn’t even remotely the first time LLMs have done this to people. Sure it would be nice to see the full log, but disbelieving it on sight is a weird reaction at this point.
It’s not a weird reaction. I’ve never ever had an LLM suggest bodily harm. And so clearly these people are leading it into this direction. I have never ever seen a chat log from one of these accusations, and I haven’t heard of One of these going to trial.
If you feel this happens so frequently, give me a series of prompts to use so that I can replicate this.
And since you won’t, that’s what I thought.
It’s not a weird reaction. I’ve never ever had Epstein sexually abuse me as a child. And so clearly these people were leading him into this direction. I have never seen a rape video from one of these accusations, and I haven’t heard of one of those going to trial.
That’s how you sound. Now two remarks:
ChatGPT helped a kid plan his suicide 7 cases of ChatGPT driving people to suicide
And those were just some of the first results when googling. Now stop being a lazy ass troll and do some fucking research yourself. Providing sources for common knowledge/well reported facts is not anybody’s responsibility towards you.
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Ok, I will try to make it easy for you to understand.
I do not need to tell somebody “kill yourself” for them to kill themselves. If I tell somebody that confines something along “I don’t want to live anymore” to me, that they should keep it to themselves, and that I can write their goodbye letter, I am also actively pushing somebody into suicide.
But it doesn’t come as a surprise to me that somebody unable to research information is also unable to connect two thoughts and come to a conclusion beyond conspiracy theories along the likes of “people are trying to harm AI”.
Bare assertion / Proof by assertion / Failure to meet the burden of proof / Shifting the burden of proof / Appeal to belief / Appeal to popularity / Argument from ignorance
I replied to you asserting that something not happening to you means it happens to nobody.
But yeah, I agree, that was very bold of me, I should have proved that.
“I’ve never won the lottery so clearly nobody does, and news reports about it are fake. You want me to believe it? Then you spend time and money to play and win it, then show me exactly how you won.”
Nevermind that “winning” in this case means dying.
Rare does not mean never. It’s happened enough to be a serious problem already and this is just one more case.
And no, I will not chat with those psychotic machines for you.
Bare assertion / Proof by assertion / Failure to meet the burden of proof / Shifting the burden of proof / Appeal to belief / Appeal to popularity / Argument from ignorance
Yawn.
Fallacy fallacy.
(If I even made those, which I doubt.)
Yawn indeed.
I don’t click links. You just hate AI, and you’re willing to believe anything to support your opinion regardless of evidence. You sound like a MAGAt.
There was another article from a very similar set of circumstances of a man originally from Portland going off the deep end with an AI relationship. He committed suicide but jumping off a bridge, not because a prompt told him to, but because of the deep psychosis from the long term engagement.
The chatlogs as reported were 55,000 pages long.
If those logs become public you’ll have your chance. I hope you don’t wear out your fingers in your attempt to replicate it.
I’m sure the psychosis was there at the beginning, regardless of the AI. I have seen people develop strange behavior after long term engagement…. But, they always gamed the system to do that. It was never natural.
It’s very sad regardless.