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LOL at Windows being marked as less corporate than MacOS. They should absolutely be at least tied.
Literal megacorporations have run purely on Windows since the 90s and it’s not S-tier corporate? lol
Windows is not at the top of corporate possibly because it can be installed on non-homologated PCs.
But on the other hand, all the reasons that people hate corporate OSes apply much more to Microsoft than Apple. Microsoft is the company that puts ads in their OS and is built entirely out of proprietary tech, and has been more vocal about shoehorning AI into everything.
That’s a poor qualifier. Most corporations do not deploy MacOS to their employees. Windows belongs in the top right, if not a full line by itself for Corporate.
if you live antwhere but the USA and Canada, MacOS is a niche, absolutely not mainstream at all, I see more linux users than MacBook users here in Brazil
macs are so rare that someone once screenshared and i was almost asking if that was gnome
Lmao. In Europe Mac is mainstream and most people think I have MacOS installed when it’s in fact gnome
Oh, didn’t you know? “The World” is just “USA” on the Internet.
I mean…it was invented there. And it is the third most populous country in the world. So, for a long time the Internet was USA. It’s not anymore but change can take a while to sink in.
Just my 2 cents.
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Do they not advertise in Brazil? Cuz if y’all can go a day without seeing an ad of a floating laptop doing pirouettes in an endless white void to an overproduced pop song masquerading as indie, I might be down to move.
as someone who has lived 20 years in brazil, (since brith and has yet to venture outside) I have seen one apple ad in my whole life, and zero apple apple stores, the few times I decided to look up some of them because of memes I was genuinely disgusted by them
Lots of things wrong with this but one I haven’t seen yet is that CachyOS literally depends on ArchLinux, yet is more “independent” than it?
These are terrible axis to try and plot operating systems, and limiting yourself to such low resolution with no overlap doesn’t help.
I think the “independent” label might be more about the decision making being dependent on an organization?
This is also a meme community and those charts are never that serious, and considering people will disagree about the placements anyways, trying to have more precision might be pointless.
Windows is less corporate than MacOS?
If we’re talking hardware restrictions, sure I get it from the walled garden.
Mac OS isn’t iOS, there is no walled garden.
It still a walled garden in the sense that Apple is the only one that can code sign and certify software for the MacOS. So every dev that wants to release software on MacOS still needs to pay for membership of Apple’s developer program even if they don’t distribute trough the App Store. Unless they want their user to disable a security feature on MacOS and ignore the warnings.
That’s not exactly true. Users don’t have to “disable” anything. They just have to click a button that says they understand the risk of running unsigned software. You can run anything you want on MacOS.
Well you might also need to run some arcane incantation to remove quarantine bits, too. And it’ll only work if it’s actually been ported to the m-series chips, of course. And sometimes you just need to compile the whole god damn app yourself anyway. But sure, caveats side, you can run anything you want on macos that runs on macos. As long as you’re not using a company-issued device and are forbidden.
Right but you can still install any app regardless.
I’ve got the hot take of wondering if Windows is less corporate than ChromeOS. I’m sure there’s some open sourcing going on from Windows but ChromiumOS (which I assume has major issues, AOSP certainly does) exists, and someone could build something cool with it.
Sadly we’ll never have an open source Windows XP.
Isnt reactos pretty close to open source xp?
How is Debian More niche than cachy?
Red Hat is based on Fedora, not the other way around.
You sure about that?
From your own link, Fedora:
…is now the upstream source for CentOS Stream and Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
So yes, I’m pretty sure.
I don’t think “upstream provider for newer packages” is the same as “based on”. Fedora was developed from Red Hat, the image is correct in that sense. You can quote that part of the link but I specifically pointed to " It was originally developed in 2003 as a continuation of the Red Hat Linux project." so based on Red Hat.
Read the paragraph again. This time with your eyes.
It was originally developed in 2003 as a continuation of the Red Hat Linux project… It is now the upstream source for CentOS Stream and Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
Did you notice how it says “Red Hat Linux Project” and then goes on to say “Red Hat Enterprise Linux”?
This is because RHL != RHEL.
From the Hyperlink on the Wikipedia page for RHL:
Red Hat Linux was a widely used commercial open-source Linux distribution created by Red Hat until its discontinuation in 2004.
OP is correct. You are mistaken for thinking RHL was RHEL. It is not.
You are right, my mistake for mixing the two.
Yup, in fact the base of RHEL 10 and CentOS Stream 10 is Fedora 41. For RHEL 9 it was Fedora 34 if I remember correctly.
Okay buddy
Windows is more corporate than that Ubuntu is more corporate and mainstream than that.
implying that Arch is niche at this point
What is corporate about Debian?
I could think of a couple votes.
It’s used by companies for its rock-solid stability in long up times.
Why is “used by companies” criteria for being corporate?
Companies use doors. Are doors “corporate” now?
Debian had corporate funding, even if they those corporations don’t have any ibfluence. It being one of the oldest and mostly widely used Linux distributions means that by the virtue of it being an enterprise-level system it is somewhat more corporate. Debian can neatly fit into most corporate and enterprise systems and probably is somewhere in almost everyone’s stack. That’s not bad and doesn’t make it a corpo distro, but it definitely is more “corporate” than something like Arch which it is rightfully juxtaposed against
That makes sense, “used by” doesn’t.
Well if among 30 doors, 2 specifically are used; then yes
more people working on it, maybe? i’m not sure, but it’s the same situation for arch
Fedora isn’t based ln RHEL, it was before, but now it’s in fact the opposite. As far as I know, RHEL 10 is based on CentOS Stream 10, which in turn is based on Fedora 41.
That’s correct. The community threw a fit when CentOS moved into that Stream position. Despite it being ABI compatible with RHEL.
I didn’t throw a fit I just replaced it within two months with debian and life goes on.
Congrats? Enjoy your totally different ecosystem and lack of SELinux.
Somehow I’ve managed to get through okay. It might have something to do with competence.
Weird choice of OS in that case. One the preconfigures many packages for you. You do you.
You forgot SuSE, as usual.
SuSE too niche to even show up on this chart.
I’ll fight you in a ditch.
I’ve worked on suse as part of Unitedlinux.
No, I’d say it’s not forgotten. Just repressed.
SuSE can hang out with New Zealand and Gen X
CachyOS a bit to the left. It is not at all mainstream in my bubble.
NixOS on the niche and corporate quadrant.
I think you’re missing quite a few like:
- z/OS it’s IBM’s mainframe OS, so super corporate and niche
- raspberry pi os should be included because it’s pretty mainstream
- android and iOS should be on there because they’re very mainstream, not technically desktop OSs but for a normie with a tablet what’s the difference?
- there’s a lot of embedded OSs that could be added (open WRT, Windows IoT, NetBSD)
- no Temple OS?
- free DOS?
Why isn’t openSUSE included in that table?
NixOS is definitely not as corporate as MacOS or ChromeOS. It’s also not as mainstream as RHEL. I’d say RHEL should be one square to the right, NixOS should go where RHEL is now, and Guix should share the square with Gentoo.
Arch Linux breaks if you don’t update it often enough
pacman -S archlinux-keyringIt’s really that easy
It’s more like “Arch Linux breaks if you don’t update for too long, then try to naively update without knowing what you’re doing and without checking the arch news for breaking changes”. Which is more breakage during updates than stable distros, but absolutely manageable.
