Say it with me, folks:
YOU WILL DIE FOR OIL SO THAT THE EPSTEIN CLASS STAYS WEALTHY.
The Epstein class wants to fuck your daughter while you die in a war of aggression to make oil barons richer.
Don’t forget Israel, you die for the Epstein class AND Israel.
I think it’s more accurate to say “You will die for Epstein so that the oil class stays wealthy.”
Dying for Epstein to own the libs.
Die for pedophiles boys
Man’s never seen a
topographicalmap of Iran and thinks that putting boots on the ground will work in those mountains.We’re going to se a whole lot more flag draped coffins stacked in amazon vans.
I’ve already seen the pictures posted by soldiers of the great meals they suddenly, recently received
The Steak and Lobster dinner was a surefire sign.
I’d have hated to be one of the people fixing the Gerald Ford carrier’s toilets pupling tshirts out of that mess.
But they did so well in Vietnam’s jungles … /s
Call me an old geezer, but I liked peace better when it didn’t mean starting wars out of the blue and sending your troops to die in meaningless skirmishes.
The US has been at war for over 200 years of its existence.
lol Americans bout to die for Epstein
epstein and israel.
Epstein was working on behalf of Israel, so yeah. Americans are dying for Israel. Again.
That’s cool, where are the Epstein files, you vile fucker?
It will be more like Afghanistan. Iran is mostly mountainous and guerilla warfare will be the default. The US relies too much on technology which will not that useful in that environment. Don’t forget that the Iran army has been training for years for this type of conflict. Afghanistan was a disaster for American troops but will be nothing compared to Iran.
I dont feel bad for any american troop who dies. They willingly joined this military knowing all it does is attack other countries. I feel bad for the iranians who will die.
Ah yes selectively valuing some lives differently than other lives, that’s what a good and moral person does
Why? They chose to sign up to go kill people in another country. They are adults right?
No. They signed up under the premise they’d be protecting America, not slaughtering people to distract from the Epstein files.
Haha ok. Been on this planet for some years and I never felt an American solder was “protecting” America. Give me a break, we are a war mongering nation and you’re just an idiot if you’re not aware of that when the recruiters come around.
The premise is broken. It is very obvious that it is not to protect the usa
You know, there’s a term used for Russian soldiers in Ukraine that’s apt, Orcs. The american soldiers just might be Orcs as well this time if they do this.
Civilians lives are alwaya valuables, soldiers in a war where they are on the aggressed are always valuable, soldiers who is part of of the nation who is the agressor was never valuable.
In term of soldiern death I expect it to be vietnam
It’s going to be worse.
In Vietnam, the us had South Vietnamese troops to use as a distraction. We’re not going to have that in Iran, cause it looks like the cia can’t start a revolution for once.
And Israel will kill American soldiers with American munitions trying to “help” and the US will do nothing about it except more of the same.
That the AI fault.
Yeah sure the USS Liberty was attacked because of bad AI.
Always. School attacked IA, bad weather AI, lost my keys AI again. They are everywhere.
If we had not already betrayed the Kurds multiple times, I say we I mean them, I am constitutionally opposed to them, but they could use the courage to break off in a separate republic, that would create a shit storm with turkey but fuck turkey seriously.
You promise me that?
They aren’t going to go full invasion, they will take islands, maybe a foothold on the straits.
Wouldn’t that make them sitting ducks?
Sure the suckers stationed there will be sitting ducks, they will have to dig in, park a patriot battery and missile defense there, and then sit back and let the deciders collect kickbacks for the billions in missile defense they use. And batter back.
If you clear out everyone within 30km and set up a minefield, plentiful aa, and build anti fpv stuff it could be held
Like they used to say at the start of the war that there will be not a single soldier on the ground in Iran territory
Yeah, but see, the US learned their lesson during the Iraq and other conflicts, so it will be quite different this go-round!
Can we in the rest of the world not get involved in yet another ground war in the Middle East?
Yes, as far as I can tell, no sane “ally” of the US has agreed to help.
Must be nice living in a country where the people learn from the last idiotic forever war that the US started in the middle east.
Unfortunately there are signals that allies are starting to acquiesce. Keir Starmer is sending the Navy to help ships navigate the strait, while Iran is bombing our bases so it’s a guarantee that our ships will be attacked, drawing us into another forever war for the United Pedos of America. The rest of the government are telling him it’s going to bankrupt us, but he’s too fucking stupid to see that, that’s the whole point of this war. To pull in NATO to put pressure on their economies, leading to a reduction of support for Ukraine. All because America elected a black man a decade ago.
Unfortunately the british government has allowed bombers to fuel, arm and launch from air bases in the UK (and have been actively supporting a certain occupation/genocidal state for the past 80)
They almost have to though, like the British mortgaged to their empire to the US and need to keep their special relationship.
Genuinely what benefit is there in supporting a genocide?
At this point the UK is painting a target on their backs by funding the occupation qnd ethnic cleansing of Palestine, as well as arming America’s bombers for attacks on Iran.
No argument here, the government of the UK needs to be burned to the ground, and Starmer is a pos that is worse than the american president in many ways, as he appears reasonable to the sheep yet is actively fascisting the country.
Well where CAN we start a ground war then? Sheesh.
/s
I suppose you could not start wars for a change, Don. They dry out your skin.
They should put his boots on the ground there. With him wearing them, of course.
Two reasons for that: After he missed out Vietnam, he now has the chance to rectify this blunder. And: He can do everything perfectly (at least according to himself), so he should be a good leader and go first, leading his troops into battle like the kings of old.
Honestly it would be interesting just to see what he thinks constitutes good tactics. I’m guessing he would just attempt a running charge, as unsuttle and highly unlikely to succeed, does seem to be his modus operandi.
That would be a good chance to let him run. Or, more likely, waddle.
So which is it, are we going to stop the war, or are we about to go all in with a ground force invasion? There are articles on lemmy that say completely opposing things.
The leadership of the country waging the war are saying completely opposing things, to be fair.
The war is over, it’s not a war, no troops, but we’re moving troops. We don’t need allies, send allies, allies are cowards, all sorts of things.
Sounds like 1984. “We’re at war with Eurasia. We’ve always been at peace with Eurasia”
A good analogy of the situation is the lyrics to Katy Perry’s Hot and Cold
At most they’re going to grab any islands and a foothold on the Straits. Occupying Mainland Iran is a Herculean task that would take millions of troops to do properly and they do not have the support for and they do not have the support for that and even then with the mountains it would be constant guerrilla warfare. Like Afghanistan. As soon as we left, the absolute minute we leave it would revert to them.
I think the military is preparing for every eventuality. No one can predict what the administration will do next, except that, long-term, it won’t be to our benefit, just theirs.
Translated into neolib-speech: The markets will react poorly
“A Flock of Seagulls” saw this coming a long time ago.
I couldn’t get away.
You don’t have to obey illegal orders. You can say no.
Frag your superior officers as an alternative
“You know how I’m always fumbling with grenades…”
Ahahahahaa the military are full of sycophantic trumpists and run by them too.
It’s not an illegal order to just get on a plane to kuwait, and Iran being on every rogue state list there is makes plenty of theoretical legal arguments for it.
It is only in the rogue state list of the west who keep,sucking irael and the usa dicks
Why don’t presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor?
The late Iranian president did fight in the war, in a way. 😅
