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      The safety of civilians in the region. You don’t have to pick a side. We can simultaneously acknowledge that the Iranian and the US regimes are fucked up.

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      why? all nations are evil. that’s a given. trump’s run to be another hitler has involved partnership with genocide and kidnapping and invasion of multiple nations.

      he’s clearly the bigger evil here.

      iran is a piece of shit but they’re not a worldwide imperialist terrorist organization actively invading other nations.

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      well you can simply vote out trump at your next election if you wish

      you can’t vote out a dictatorship

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        the dictatorship is capitalism here in the US. it also can’t be voted out.

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          It could’ve been. But dumbfucks threw a tantrum over Harris.

          This is on their heads. Never let it be forgotten.

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            While Harris would have been an objectively better president than trump, I don’t think voting for her would have voted out capitalism…

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            don’t forget: the ppl who voted 3rd party.

            even if they voted for harris she still would have lost. she did a piss poor job at her campaign. if the primary actually picked her instead of joe dropping she’d likely have done much better.

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        I kind of doubt that will be true. Don’t you think if our system actually worked trump would have been some how taken from presidency? Or at least something would be happening. Like anything real…

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      Iran loves to issue empty threats.

      They’ve been crippled. Their ability to project artillery outside their borders is receding with every passing day. As soon as the US/Israel offer them a seat at the bargaining table, they’ll come rushing back just like they have every other time the US/Israel has pushed their shit in.

      If you love getting rug-pulled, go ahead and root for Iran.

      If you want to cheer for the team with the kind of blood-lust necessary to obliterate a civilization, you’d be better off cheering for the US and Israel.

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        The war just started. How do you even know what tricks they have up their sleeves? You think dropping big explosives from the air is the only form of warfare? How did that work out for you in Vietnam? This is the same hubris Putin demonstrated. Don’t jump the gun.

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          You think dropping big explosives from the air is the only form of warfare? How did that work out for you in Vietnam?

          Killed a whole lot of people

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            Yeah. Killing little school girls is all you can claim as an achievement! After all, little school girls are the field of expertise of your supreme commander, aren’t they?

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              We killed a whole lot of school girls in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq as well. Didn’t get the same kind of coverage, because the executive branch (and the public) were more disciplined in messaging.

              But I think a lot of warfare is, at the end of the day, a libidinal need to “mow the grass” as the genocidal IDF leadership put it. Kill your enemies. Kill their families. Kill their kids. Depopulate territory of opposition.

              Do I think dropping big explosives from the air works toward that end? Absolutely.