I remember people trying to bring awareness about Darfur 20 years ago.
Not much has changed…
The article is not wrong. But the reality is, we’ve tried to help places like a Sudan a lot over the decades. I’d say we helped TOO MUCH.
We sent food aid which made them dependent on us. It didn’t incentivise them to fix their issues, it just made them reliant on outside help. Meanwhile, the population skyrocketed. There’s more mouths to feed, more famine, more conflict.
At some point, a country needs to fix whatever’s broken. And it won’t be pretty; it never is. But I don’t think interfering in an internal conflict like this will do any good to anyone. Can we as the west even reasonably figure out who the ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys’ are in this conflict? Is there even a good or bad side to begin with?
I mostly agree. I think people got put off when it turns out most donations to African countries in turmoil are embezzled.
However, there is a selective activism and double standard when Palestine gets more attention than Sudan, and the Israel-Palestinian conflict had been going on for as long as the conflict in Sudan and its neighbouring countries.
One of the countries on the list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KkNAQIuGZY
okay so let me get this straight. it’s up to me to sort out the fascism in my home country, stop the genocide in sudan, stop the genocide in gaza, stop the genocide in ukraine, stop the genocide in china, would you also like a pony sir? what ever happened to a people’s responsibility of self determination that y’all keep throwing in my face whenever i mention that the orange fuckface has become an international problem and it’s time to start employing economic sanctions to try reining in the united states? y’all stop your own genocides.
What!? Do you not even care about climate change? Why do you hate nature?
A duck bit me once and now the world must burn
It’s up to you to bite the duck
It’s so frustrating that we are living through an active genocide (again) and doing absolutely nothing (again). In my youth, when there wasn’t yet a 24 hour news cycle and I learned about the genocide in Rwanda as a teenager, it was my naive belief at the time that a lack of knowledge was the main reason for the general indifference in “the West”. A year later the genocide in Bosnia, especially the massacre at Srebrenica, was headline news in my home country of the Netherlands and yet people seemed to collectively just shrug that off just as quickly as it happened. Now, many years later, I’ve become much more cynical. If you want people to care about unjustified murder you should either make sure to have your country located really really close to “the West”, but even that is just of limited use to Ukraine, or make sure that the killing happens to take place at the hands of mostly Jewish people, although most Palestinians can attest to the fact that while media attention is good, action is still lacking.
Keep in mind you’re on a site where a solid number of users might downplay or relativise Srebrenica.
How willing have you been to go and put your life on the line to stop these atrocities? If you’re not willing to, why should others?
If none of the individuals in a democratic country are eager to go die to prevent the atrocities, then why would you think a democratic country would take action to force individuals to go die to try and prevent a genocide?
And in this particular case, international trade with Sudan is at like 3% of their GDP – they don’t really trade with anyone, so its not like democratic countries can be all “smarten up, or else no more [x]!”
The UN at one point in the past had a decent peace keeping force function, that’d go and assist such regions. But the UN has basically been kneecapped by both authoritarian non-democratic countries having veto powers, and by the USA overtly defunding all its programs as of late.
And the US is now participating eagerly in war crimes / crimes against humanity – they’re the ‘supposed’ leader of the democratic west, but they actively encourage genocides like in Israel. The people of the USA voted for it. They’re ‘democratically’ in favour of encouraging genocides. Your opinion in the broader democratic environment, if you’re American, is in the minority. And part of living in a democracy is accepting the will of the majority, which happens to be in favour of genocides.
But the UN has basically been kneecapped by both authoritarian non-democratic countries having veto powers, and by the USA overtly defunding all its programs as of late.
Lately the US has been an authoritarian non-democratic country.
I understand your complain to a state level but not to individual level ,like even if I hate genocide and that make me sick I can t do anything again it , unfortunately
There’s much less direct military funding and support fueling Sudan so most people have no real outlet or mechanism for addressing it beyond support for humanitarian aid efforts and the UN.
There’s not an easily identified or direct policy that can be pointed at, as if an actor were receiving billions direct military aid and support. Like, even Israel is split on which side they’re supporting. Ukraine and Russia alike have supported opposition to the RSF.
What is the world supposed to do? Invade?
Uhh, yes, actually.
Oh yes, because that worked so great in Somalia.
What exactly are you referring to?
Are you suggesting world nations intervened in Somalia to satisfy their obligations under the genocide conventions? Because that didn’t happen.
So you’re suggesting that invasions in order to prevent genocide work differently than all other interventions? You invade, say “Hello, we’re here to prevent genocide”, everyone makes peace, situation stabilizes and you can leave? Because ‘normal’ invasions (Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Haiti…) tend to result in a shitshow and don’t improve the situation much. Even UN’s own research say that those only ‘sometimes’ work and domestic cooperation and consent is the most important factor in success [1]. So basically if you have a recognized government that asks for help intervention may help. Throwing more troops in the middle of an ongoing civil war most likely won’t.
- Donine, T., Khan, M., Landau, A., Solomon, D., & Woocher, L. (2025). Using peace operations to help prevent mass atrocities: Results from interviews with experienced practitioners.
When has the human race ever cared about a genocide, absent some material reason to do so?
What are other African nations doing about it?
Not sending weapons to the RSF
How can you talk about this, when there’s an ongoing genocide in Gaza? /s
It’s actually very sad, that a lot of harm could be prevented here, if it got even a tenth of the Gaza media coverage. But here it’s not Jews killing Arabs, but Arabs killing Africans. For some reason the left often turns a blind eye to Arab violence. And the right doesn’t care because they are killing Africans.
At least that’s my theory. It certainly also has something to do with Cameras and free press being a lot less common in Sudan. That leads to less pictures and videos, which leads to less social media engagement.
Maybe someone should tell trump that there is gold in Sudan. Maybe that’ll get some intervention. He seems to be very trigger happy as of late.
It’s talked about because Israel’s genocide is being down with our support and our weapons, and that support is clearly because of bribes and blackmail.
People protest about the genocide in Palestine because there is a demand for the imperialists to leave, meanwhile protesting about the genocide in Sudan would do nothing but convince the imperialists to come in thus making it worse.
Countries don’t really care about Gaza either, they care about Israel and because they care about Israel there is a counter-movement to care about Gaza, some of it financed by geopolitics, which makes it into the news cycle.
Imperialism, or a sternly worded letter? Choose your preference. The UN is present and has condemned what is happening in Sudan, and this article literally cites them as a source. Presumably they are no one, so no one cares.
So, because governments aren’t listening to protesters about an unrelated genocide, this genocide is somehow protesters fault? Feels like you’re just reaching for a way to be racist towards Arabs.
Bro, I’m Palestinian and I can say the Sudanese people are as arab as anyone in the peninsula. When it comes to the Gaza genocide, sudanese people try more than any Arab nationality to aid, whether it be boycotting or donating.
If they could currently be doing anything about the massacre in their country, they would be. Most are going back and getting their family out of there, if they hadn’t already don’t that.
The left lol… Hitler was opposed to Christianity… He got along better with Muslims and Palestinians… Gaza, the first genocide with a growing population… There has never been a genocide like this before. However, when it comes to calling for genocide against Jews, only Israel is mentioned. (No one wants to be associated with Nazis.) The US and Europe: Jews are afraid and are being hunted, while pro-Palestinians are terrorizing the US and Europe.
They arent anti war they are pro genozid…
