• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    FYI to others: I have this tankie from Lemmy.ml tagged as believing China doesn’t ban images of Xi as Winnie the Pooh, lol.

    All I ever see them be is antagonistic, sowing apathy, defeatism, or trying to egg people with stochastic rhetoric (but never themselves, of course).

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      7 hours ago

      I have them tagged as a Troll

      They have only ever commented in Politics, World News, and occasionally Late Stage Capitalism

      Since their account was created and over 1000 comments, they only talk in a derivative tone about political shit, in only 3 communities. That’s a bullshit account if I’ve ever seen one, or they just have a shitty personality… either way, their opinion is moot to me

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      13 hours ago

      There’s more than a few of these around. They start shit on otherwise seemingly normal posts for no reason, and often have a couple (friends? Alts?) to give them a couple upvotes to keep them afloat. IDK why they seem more prevalent lately and they’re only there to be dicks and not actually engage.

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        13 hours ago

        Because foreign adversarial governments who want to see the demise of the west have access to the internet too.

        Seriously, to think the FSB and the CCP’s CPD aren’t on lemmy is to delude oneself…

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            9 hours ago

            Some people still tell me to take my tinfoil hat off. Like, how ignorant can one be at this point?

            Unless those people are state actors, of course…

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          13 hours ago

          Guess I’m surprised that any of them would waste time on Lemmy/the fediverse. It doesn’t have enough clout to seem to be worth the effort.

          We absolutely have trolls and there was pretty much no possibility at all that there wasn’t some kind of State monitoring going on, but active organized State Trolls seemed a stretch. There are far more popular platforms to manipulate the denizens of.

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            11 hours ago

            Waste time? It’s not the oligarchs in those countries doing it. They siphon the wealth of their nations like parasites. They can afford to pay a few peasants to operate their troll farms, where one person can direct thousands of bots at a time.

            There’s an entire office building in Petersburg devoted to cyber/psyops. True, they probably focus most of their effort on more popular platforms like reddit, xitter, tiktok, facebook, and instagram. They’re definitely on telegram, maybe even whatsapp and discord. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re even on irrelevant artifacts like quora and yelp.

            But to think they’re not on the fediverse, just because it isn’t as popular as other platforms? Please. They’ll leave no stone unturned.

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      I just moved from mainland and Xi definitely banned pictures of Winnie the Pooh and squashes pretty much all protest. Not sure why he would think different.

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      11 hours ago

      Maybe your time would be better spent worrying about your own country?

      Traveler threatened with jail or fine had phone forcefully searched and was denied entry after bald photo of JD Vance found.

      Only state approved journalists allowed in White House press pool.

      Pentagon removes internal press media offices.

      Protestors charged with terrorism for wearing black clothing and handing out pamphlets.

      US builds concentration camps for those disappeared by masked secret police, after killing citizens in street.

      Masked secret police collecting DNA, face scans, license plates from peaceful protestors, for use in creating a database of “domestic terrorists”.

      Trump wishes to imprison additional US citizens in El Salvadoran gulag after sending 280 immigrants.

      Police arrest and attack citizens with chemical weapons, batons, and projectiles, injuring over 300,000 people per year.

      US bankrolls, supplies, and provides troops to apartheid state conducting genocide.

      But China (7000km away) is big meanie and if I can’t have pooh photo (if I ever travel 7000km to China (which I hate because pooh photo)), I will literally die.

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        11 hours ago

        Are you assuming that commenter is american?

        Also, nobody here is claiming that america is good. We’re literally here to discuss how drastically things in the US need to change.

        The comment you’re replying to was calling out the hypocrisy of someone trying to detract from the protests going on. Denying the authoritarianism of one country doesn’t help oppose authoritarianism in another. Two mutually antagonistic governments can be authoritarians at the same time, and it’s perfectly valid to criticize both.

        So your long list of facts, while they would be relevant as a top-level comment had you framed them as “reasons why we’re protesting,” are really just a thinly-veiled red herring that you’re attempting to use to defend someone who’s attempting to derail conversation about the protest movement.

        Are you in, or in the way?

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            4 hours ago

            While you are correct, we cannot skip steps in developing class consciousness. A 1 day general strike is better than a 0 day general strike. A 2 day strike is better than a 1 day.

            You leftist ultras was to forsake progress in the name of idealism.

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            7 hours ago

            A sustained general strike requires widespread strong unions with the ability to keep workers paid and fed for the whole duration of the strike. It’s not something you can just decide to do on a whim, it requires years of preparation by a disciplined labor movement that has already trained those muscles. This 1 day strike isn’t ground-shattering, but it’s a start.