One underestimates the power and scope of right-wing propaganda, and especially how it taps into machismo idolization, sadly.

Remember that these are the cultists who look at daily weather to disprove climate change. Recognizing overall trends is not their strongsuit.

I assume embarrassment on the world stage helped move this along given the Olympics?

The problem is that last one:

The vast majority of Americans (80%) support the U.S. government’s deportation of migrants without permanent legal status who have been convicted of a violent crime.

How far can “violent” and “conviction” be stretched in order to justify wrongful deportations?

Hence your substantive engagement on what I did mention?

I dish back that which has been dished out.

Never claimed this.

Implied.

Never claimed this.

So you are saying Democrats and Harris would’ve been better?

None of this is about hate, it’s about which policy decisions are better than others.

And Harris had overall better policy decisions, correct?

Again, never claimed.

So you agree Harris had overall better policy decisions, correct?

Everything you’re saying comes across as being less about “how do we improve things” and more “I need someone to be angry at.” I would propose directing that anger at the politicians instead of your fellow voters.

The two notions aren’t mutually-exclusive. You see, in order to improve things, fools asserting defeatist false equivalence fallacy rhetoric need to learn from their disastrous mistakes. Because you’re the one responsible, that is making you a bit uncomfortable, I suspect.

I would propose making fewer logical fallacies next election cycle.

If I was religious I would definitely think he was the devil quoting scripture.

Compounding deflections now, I see. Was a pretty simple question, really.

If we’re going with blind attacks then I think Ivanov has hit the vodka a little too heavy today, maybe?

I love how you dodged more than half of the issues, knowing you didn’t have jack shit. Respectfully, of course.

Sounds like one is complicit in genocide with respect to both climate change and Ukraine.

(by the way: you love mamdani; if they’re all the same, why did he run as a Democrat? You should hate him too, right? So I guess they’re not all the same and Democrats are, objectively better, is that right?)

So you’re condoning genocide and dodging the fact that Democrats were objectively better for the people of Ukraine?

Classic deflection.

Because it’s irrelevant. Even entertaining collusion, your argument that we cut out the middleman and hand the keys to the GOP is unquestionably worse in every logical way.

Last I checked, Dems gave more aid to Ukraine. Are you saying you’re complicit on the Russian genocide against Ukraine?

You’re the reason we have Trump. Absurd.

Criticism of Dems, specifically false equivalence botherism, was objectively disinfo. We know Israel and Russia have troll farms that supported Republicans, and many people including yourself lapped up that rhetoric. Doesn’t matter if you’re a US citizen or not. You helped amplify the propaganda. So thanks for that.

Billions in aid to Gaza and West Bank even through 2022 prove the point regardless, but sure: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-usaid-gaza-ceasefire-0a56d5d591c249eb5e44ba29c9adaa3e

You still didn’t answer: do you not care about all those issues?

Hahaha bystanders observe the absurdity of this claim. Talk about a non-sequitur.

I’m all for shitting on AIPAC Dems, but all this proves is that right-wing disinfo ops convinced people like you to amplify their bullshit and sway larger swaths of people. So good job parroting right-wing disinfo when you could’ve done hard work actually telling people what Harris was without question the better candidate on a multitude of issues.

Maybe less drinking right-wing kool-aid and more door-knocking.

Like I said, you willingly threw Ukrainians under the bus in this self-defeating mindset, leaving aside the other issues mentioned…

So just tell me you don’t care about:

• Climate Change (and resulting deaths)
• Healthcare
• LGBTQ+ rights (and resulting discrimination)
• Women’s bodily autonomy
• Ukraine (and Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine; so are bystanders complicit in genocide there?)
• Economic Inequality
• Immigration (and resulting deportations, alligator auschwitz, etc.)

And I’ll actually understand a little better!

Also you weren’t aware USAID helped Palestinians? Inform yourself! https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-106243#%3A~%3Atext=Fast+Facts%2Cfiscal+years+2020+through+2022.

Let’s pretend they’re the same on genocide (they’re not, because Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera, cut USAID that helped Gazans, or escalated in bombing Iran, leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted), but:

In a binary choice election with the inevitable choices being Harris or Trump, one opted to assert both sides / false equivalence Harris being obviously better on:

• Climate Change
• Healthcare
• LGBTQ+ rights
• Women’s bodily autonomy
• Ukraine (and Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine; so are bystanders complicit in genocide there?)
• Economic Inequality
• Immigration

Instead one enabled victory for the person who was not only worse in 1 genocide but arguably 3 genocides when counting Ukraine and Climate Change.

It logically makes zero sense.

I don’t think it comes as much surprise that AIPAC-backed Dems were more likely to continue to blindly support Biden.

You know, the lobbying firm whose bulk of funding comes from Republican origins.

I can see the strategic play of progressives not coming out and calling for Biden to step down because they would’ve been seen as a scapegoat and Biden may have dug in his heels more if progressives led the charge.

I said right-wing, not Russia. Try again, maybe?

But now that you mention it, the MUh boTH sides false equivalence fallacy is textbook Russian IRA troll farm tactics though. No surprise Republicans are in bed with Russians I suppose.

BTW, that you fixated on this destroys any credibility you may have had.

No that tracks for me, and I work in Healthcare in the US just the same. I personally had what I perceived as urgent but non-emergent and got into my doctor within a week.

I would go to urgent care (I know it’s in the name but alas) if I had more pressing concerns or symptoms were bad but not life-threatening.

I would go to the ER if I was in massive pain and felt at imminent risk of death.

Passing the buck. Coward. You’re a US Senator. Act like it.

(though I guess these days cowardice is exemplary of Senate behavior).

Also, I’m totally sure Walz would’ve cast the tie-breaking vote for such a shit bill, isn’t that right couch sitters / stein voters? Try not to fall for the right-wing wedge driving disinfo ops next time please… If there is a next time.

Edit: Tankies, gullible Stein voters, accelerationists, nilhists, couch-sitters, vatniks – whatever you are – complaining below. Try your best not to feign too much concern over the passage of this and subsequent damage the GOP is doing. You don’t get a say here since obviously you believe Harris would’ve done the same, like (checks notes) booting millions off medicaid that will according to experts lead to 50,000 deaths annually. Some would argue such people who asserted a BoTh SiDeS fallacy are complicit in those deaths.

Now if you’re willing to admit your mistake, then welcome back.

I mean even men hate men at times; this male here would much prefer a female candidate so it slices both ways.

Reality remains: true bigots; trust sexists were only ever voting conservative, regardless if it was Obama, Biden, or a female like Harris or AOC. So that alone is a non-starter.

Buddy, I was just adding context and it seems you took it personally or something. Yous aid alongside and I clarified that Sanders was performing better. Just facts. That’s all.