• favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
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    5 hours ago

    He can’t. He doesn’t have the authority to. Congress ratifies treaties. Congress cancels treaties.

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    Do it then moron. USA = the only country to invoke article 5 in NATO. 🤡

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    Sadly pulling out is not something the family is known for. Imagine if his father had. Man now wouldn’t that be something.

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      10 hours ago

      The most patriotic thing his father could have done was

      Tap for spoiler

      come on his mother’s tits

      Seriously though. Fuck this American nonsense already.

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        I don’t think so. Don’t get me wrong, trump is 100% a symptom. But there’s no one with even close to the cult of personality. Not even Musk. Who would takeover? Couch fucker? Thiel? That ghoul Ellison?

        Nah, without trump they would have to be smarter and more competent to push their evil. And shockingly sometimes competent evil is better than stupid evil. I’d rather not see either. But that’s not a choice we get to make unfortunately.

        • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
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          I think you’re right no one else had the personality to form the cult, but the behind the scenes player have gotten where they need to be and are embedded enough they don’t need what follows to be another Trump. Elon is too egotistical to control, Vance has no charisma but will comply (better than Pence did). It won’t matter if the cult dissolves, they played their part, and even their objections won’t matter.

        • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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          15 hours ago

          anyone could be pumped up by the media over a long enough timespan, just like trump was.

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    At this point… just fuck off already. Rip off the bandage and let us start working on fixing the consequences. Evacuate the bases you guys have in the EU. Just leave us alone. Do the whole isolationism thing. Please, I beg of you.

    You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of Dog, go.

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      This is kind of what he campaigned on… as one promise at least. Knew a few service members excited they’d get to be away less often if he was elected. That is the main reason some voted for him.

      I kept telling them they were making a huge mistake because he will get a hair up his ass and do something stupid to stay in office or draw attention away from a fuckup. And here we are… multiple fuckups and failed distractions later. I wish I could see their faces now but they’re on their way to Iran. Heh.

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      Do the whole isolationism thing. Please, I beg of you.

      I don’t think that’s what’s Trump intends to do after leaving NATO.

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      Will make zero difference to ardent supporters of the death cult. They know. They’ve known for years.

      They do. Not. Care.

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      It’s not a carefully choreographed puppet show…

      It’s like an art exhibit where any random person can walk up and yank on strings, often in opposite directions.

      You’re assigning order to chaos, the same reason every early civilization had a “lightning god”.

      Our brains want an explanation, so we invent them to explain chaos. Even when the explanation is clearly not matching up to reality.

      Reality is a lot worse than just trump doing whatever Putin asks.

      It’s less “puppet” and more multi-player QWOP where random people each have a single button.

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        To steal a wonderful turn of phrase, Putin didn’t pull Trump’s strings because he doesn’t have to. Getting him elected was enough. “Trump is a fire and forget idiot.”

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      The orange child rapist is an idiot… the occam’s razor is still that he is too stupid, has no clue how anything works and is simply making one foolish decision after another.

      Being this stupid, he is very easily manipulated (as is evident by now), so maybe Putin is manipulating him… but honestly, trump is simply too stupid to be anyone’s “asset”

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    Great. Get lost. So when you attack Greenland or Canada, article 5 can be used against the US instead of it being an internal dispute within NATO.

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    NATO is a defensive alliance. USA just showed the world it can’t even defend a 100 mile strip of water. How will it defend its allies when USA is crying it can’t do it and the allies have to take over. There isn’t much added value.

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    Also werden die Amerikaner das schaffen, was der EU nicht konnte: eine echte EU Armee… Danke sehr, ihr Schweine