• Dr. Dabbles@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    …from the victim. What a shit thing to say. But I guess hero worship tends to make toxic people look the other way on rape pretty often, so I shouldn’t be surprised.

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      1 year ago

      Without proof there is no victim. It’s just a person speaking about another person. I don’t go around sentencing random people with unconfirmed charges. Innocent until proven guilty.

      I don’t give a shit about this man in the slightest. I didn’t even know who the CEO was until today. However, people spouting a tweet like it’s hard evidence is so stupid it really makes you wonder how someone can be that dumb.

      If it did happen then it’s terrible but without proof there isn’t any way to prove it.

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        1 year ago

        Well for sure what he needs is you here defending him. Nice work. All the concern you express is for him, none for her. And it’s not “a tweet”, it’s multiple threads over 2 years. Strange you’re trivializing the allegations like that. It’s surprising to me when weirdos choose to defend against rape allegations, more so when it’s incest and child related. And for some reason there’s always the tech fans doing it. Normally I’d wonder why, but I’m sure you have your legitimate reasons to pretend a little girl wasn’t raped by an older brother.

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          Whatever you need to quantify your reasoning is fine. I do apologize I called you stupid and it was uncalled for. I am sure that you believe what you say to be right and true or justice. I do not know where you are from but where I live you are innocent until proven guilty. Until actual evidence in produced the man in question is innocent. If one day evidence is provided that isn’t just hearsay then I will change my mind. I do not defend anyone because there is no one to defend.

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            1 year ago

            I bet you’ll be first on the ground defending him if evidence came to light, but I do wonder, what evidence would you find acceptable? What evidence would you consider credible enough for you to accept someone has alleged multiple forms of abuse from an elder sibling during childhood?

            My guess is literally nothing.

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              1 year ago

              To simple test really, you find the closest river you tie him to a chair and you dunk him if he drowns he was innocent and if he lives he was guilty. However, if you drowns the sister is put to the flame.

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      1 year ago

      As someone who has been falsely accused the assumption of guilt is unfair. Tweets are not evidence.

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          1 year ago

          I was raped

          I believe you no doubt

          I was falsely accused

          Flat out do not believe you

          I’m not sure if you care, but you are being very hypocritical.

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            … By pointing out the fact their post isn’t evidence? Hmmm. It’s funny how so many “tech” fans will instantly dismiss rape allegations made by women, but immediately believe some random loser claiming they were wrongly accused. Almost like there’s a systemic problem here.

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              1 year ago

              I never said I believe them.

              You either believe both the rape victim and the accusation victim, or you believe neither.

              Only believing one of them is hypocritical.

              I personally believe both of them to be some person on the internet who’s words do not matter. I do not consider either of the two claims to be worth listening to.

              Innocent until proven. Always.

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                Equivalency and idiotic. One of them is a claim about a violent sex act which statistically speaking false claims almost never happened. The other asshole is defending rape allegations.

                I understand you guys have a hard time seeing another man in power me questioned, probably because of her daddy issues. The fact of them is his sister stands to gain nothing and stands to lose everything. She is made claims about her abuse of the hands of both of her brothers, and rather than show even the slightest. Bit of curiosity, empathy, or any other human traits, some real pieces of shit have shown up here defending him and claiming she is made these accusations up whole cloth.

                That’s called rape apologetics, and I’ll have no fucking part of it. I didn’t say he was guilty, the case hasn’t been brought to trial. I’ve made a judgment of my own and I find that when a woman claims she has been raped from an early age by a family member that tends to stick with the overwhelming cases of incest, child rape, and all other rape on record. It’s almost always a family member or someone the family knows, and pieces of shit almost always make excuses for why.

                Consider carefully which side of the issue you want to be on.