• lingh0e@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    But until a higher bar is met, this low bar could easily be exploited by the next Trump fascist who needs only get some 2-bit State judge from some red state to conclude of their own volition that the next liberal is treasonous / insurrectionist and there ya go —

    We absolutely need to stop using the “if we hold these criminals accountable for legitimate reasons, they might use it against us for illegitimate reasons” BS.

    These people are thoroughly unscrupulous, and they will use whatever means they want to further their agenda.

    The very fact that you’re scared of them using legitimate laws in illegitimate ways is EXACTLY why they should be stopped.

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      10 months ago

      I get where you’re coming from but we circle back to one of my original points: high bars already helped prevent a fascist who was already in the White House from making such a move to consolidate power and remain in office.

      The laws are there. Justice should in theory come by honest means soon enough. We just need to be patient.

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      10 months ago

      I get where you’re coming from but we circle back to one of my original points: high bars already helped prevent a fascist who was already in the White House from making such a move to consolidate power and remain in office.

      The laws are there. Justice should in theory come by honest means soon enough. We just need to be patient.

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        10 months ago

        high bars already helped prevent a fascist who was already in the White House from making such a move to consolidate power and remain in office.

        No, Trump’s absolute incompetence and Dan Quayle helped prevent those things from happening. He has since realized how much more damage he could have done which is why he’s so fucking desperate to win again, because he wants to do that damage.

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          10 months ago

          For whatever reason Pence realized it was doomed to fail or too much risk to himself. Even if it succeeded, it doesn’t preclude the checks & balances that came from elsewhere, including Congress that already was able to prevent a significant amount of damage during Trump’s term.

          Don’t get me wrong, I completely agree that Trump is a threat to the country and should be stopped. I simply take issue with this approach prior to Smith’s Federal trial.