I’ve never smoked/vaped and I do not plan to anytime soon, but I’m curious of how quitting is like once you’re addicted.

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    I smoked a pack a day for about a decade.

    I used a method that was, at the time, recent research. Idk if you remember the quit smoking ad that features a woman going out for a a smoke break at work. She goes to light up, but looks stressed and panicked. She then fucking carjacks someone, looks relieved, and then lights up. It ended with a voiceover “You smoke every time you drive, but you don’t drive every time you smoke…? Think of a new way to quit.” And then had their URL on screen.

    I was a psych student at the time, in a research class. Perfect. I dig in, find out what this ad is all about. As mentioned, it’s based on recent peer reviewed research. Awesome. I’m the test subject. Let’s recreate.

    The tldr: quit specific cigarettes. Don’t quit cigarettes.

    Do you smoke every time you drink your morning coffee? And then your next one after breakfast?

    Okay, well, now the first cigarette of your day is the one after breakfast. Well quit that one a little later.

    If you’re a smoker, you know certain cigarettes will be harder to quit than others. Space these out. Don’t quit your morning cig and then your after dinner cig. Jesus, man.

    One by one, get them outta your life. The discomfort is brief, you know you’ll smoke again soon.

    That’s pretty much it. Get it down to the last, most difficult to quit cigarette, and work hard at it, knowing g it’ll be a little harder than all the rest. If you fail, you don’t go back to smoking you go back to that cigarette.

    If you drink alcohol, this will be the hard one. The drunk cigarette is tricky because drunk you doesn’t care about progress and will justify chain smoking ‘socially’ while out drinking or something. My recommendation for the drunk cigarette is to do it last. First quit the “drink alone” cigs, then the “social” drunk cigs. Then limit social drunk cigs to like 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 a night.

    The magic part is that you’ll still have them… But you’ll start hating them. You’ll realize how much non-smokers smell smokers and how little you noticed. The taste will be overwhelming, you’ll remember how strong it was when you started. I recommend getting hammered and smoking a couple. You’ll puke like Bobby Hill and be more or less done with it.

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      Interesting advice.

      Personally, I had a bet with a friend. $100 from whichever one of us smokes first. It’s usually so easy to justify just one, but that gets a lot harder when that one will cost you $100, and absolutely, positively destroy your quitting attempt.

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      That’s interesting. I actually did something like this for the month or two before I quit fully. I just started to pay attention to the routine cigarettes and cut some of them out if I had had one recently. Then when I fully quit, I just said to myself “it’s cold outside and it’s warm in here” and that was that. I had one more after about 24hrs and that was the last one I ever had. It’s been over 4 years now

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    Rocky. I quit once years ago for like 3 months and went back, never got the will power up to try again. Then one day my doctor told me there is a good chance I had cancer (spoiler: didn’t have cancer) and it scared the shit out of me.

    Knowing technically its probably to late I tried to quit, failed almost immediately.

    Then kind of sat down with myself and had a good long thing about why. Determined it was a multi layered problem.

    1. The nicotine itself.
    2. The act of getting up and going outside
    3. The hand/mouth part of it

    So I took a multi phased approach.

    I switched to vaping, which I found hard. But instead of puffing on a vape non stop I got really strong fluid so each time would just be a puff or two. Then I’d sit on the porch for a min before I went back in.

    Later I lowered the MG on the vape fluid. Then about a month later lowered it again. Kept that up until it was the lowest MG fluid.

    Started the patch. Still went outside a few times a day and would just have a tic tac and relax a bit. Occasionally I’d get a really strong urge so for the first week so I’d let myself have like one puff off the vape but after a week of that, threw it in the trash.

    Patch level down, down again, and then right before the lowest level I actually felt I was already ready. I had to take the patches off each night or I’d have bad dreams and the next day I’d put another on. But that last day I woke up and I just put last nights back on. I’m sure it had very little left in it but I knew it would have some effect. I did this so that I would be totally unaware of when the nicotine really stopped. I was playing a mind game with myself and so at some point that day I pulled it off and went about my life.

    Two days later I had an ABSOLUTE HELL DAY. One where later I even had to apologize to my boss because I was being such a raging asshole and then… I was free.

    I kept up the sitting on the porch thing a few months, I also picked up a pretty big tic tac habit which I had to later break but thats childs play compared.

    Its been over 2 years now. I’ve finally stopped dreaming about smoking or if I do I’m mad at myself (in the dream) about it. The smell to me is now awful instead of something that I want. And I never ever ever want to go back.

    I do struggle with my weight a lot more then when I smoked though. Oh, and every scan shows whatever they thought might be cancer hasn’t changed in size and might even have shrunk a little. So I guess if whatever that is doesn’t kill me I can say “Thanks, weird shit on my lung.”

    But if you’re reading this and you’re a smoker. Quit. Now. Soon. But quit. Don’t wait until its too late. When the world drops out from under you and you know you’ve fucked up in a way that can never be fixed. Don’t wait until you feel like your whole world is winding down and wait on some sort of miracle. Find whatever path works. Please.

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    I had always been a fan of smoking and chewing. One day, a friend showed me his Strawberry Shortcake vape. I never looked back. Lemon Pound cake vape for days.

    Eventually I got into making large bottles of ejuice. Then I just gradually lowered the quantity of nicotine.

    Once I hit that 0 nicotine, I just worked on decreasing my frequency. Then one day I bronchitis and I was like: okay I’m done.

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    Terrible at first because I tried it without any medication and I simply could not afford to not be working for the 3-5 days for the worst physical signs to pass.

    Afterwards I tried again with medication and it went smoothly, no physical addiction signs, but the mental ones were interesting. I haven’t even realized how rooted in my routine smoking was - every time I knew I’d be waiting for ~5 minutes, I went for a smoke.

    Has been over a year now and the strangest thing is I really want a cigarette from time to time, not very often, but it feels weird.

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      Yeah I know people who haven’t smoked for decades but still get cravings from time to time.

      It permanently alters your brain. That’s why stopping people before they get addicted is so important.

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      I also used the medication. For me the craving eventually turned in to disgust. I wasn’t confident that I wasn’t going to smoke again for about 2 years, but your brain doesn’t stop changing just because you’ve stopped the pills. Simply not having the addiction speak for you anymore is allowing your brain to change. I can’t even stand the smell now, I’ve turned in to my grandpa lol.

      It will be 5 years for me soon, I’ve got a bit of a head start, but here’s hoping you stop craving too. Congratulations and good luck!

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    Wife and I bought a house with the agreement that we would not smoke inside. Then we stopped going out so much, argued a lot because quitting sucks and we did it at the same time. Eventually started going back out and have both been smoke free for a couple of decades.

    It really took a lifestyle change to quit since the worst triggers were environmental, physical addiction was secondary.We also had tapered down a bit while house shopping and finalizing the sale so we had whittled down the number of cigarettes per day over time before stopping completely. The house was a nice reminder that we quit at first, and then a reinforcement during later temptations.

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    A couple of things helped me stop. First, I didn’t set a day I was going to stop because that just made me anxious and want to smoke more as THE DAY approached. I decided I was going to stop soon and then one random morning I said to myself “this is it. Stop now”, which took me by surprise and I didn’t have a chance to get anxious.

    Secondly, I kept to my routine of taking a break when I’d normally have a cigarette but I’d go outside and chew some ordinary gum instead. That way I could deal with the physical addiction first and the mental addiction later.

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    I was 2 packs a day for 12 years. I made a bet with a roommate that we’d both quit smoking on the same day, loser lost $250. If we both hadn’t smoked again in a month, we’d put $500 towards a vacation.

    Neither of us smoked again. I used the early versions of vapes. Was doing great on those until I got really drunk one night and lost them. And that was the last nicotine I inhaled.

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    I started smoking in high school, and by 23, I was smoking a pack a day.

    After college, I got a job teaching children’s martial arts at my instructors gym. I taught ages 3 to 18 full time.

    Now, these kids, man, they think you are the coolest fucking thing ever walk the earth, I’m not even kidding. I’d run into them every so often outside if the gym, and I became terrified they’d catch me smoking, and I’d have to explain why their idol was doing something so terrible.

    So, I decided to wean myself off. I went down by one cigarette each week. Eventually, I was smoking only 3 a day. Then, I cut out the one in the morning with my coffee. Then the one on the way to work.

    That last cigarette I smoked on the way home for that last week, I dream about it sometimes.

    Anyway, someone had told me that when you stop smoking, the third day is the worst. But for me, it was the fifth day. I’ll never forget how angry I was that day. But once I got through it, not smoking became a lot easier.

    I just never went back. Those kids might have saved my life. Or at least my lungs. :)

    Don’t get me wrong, it was hard. I think part of the reason I never got back into it is I didn’t want to have to go through quitting again.

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    i found it easier to quit smoking, frankly, than quit sugary soft drinks.

    the journey was simple: i just refused to smoke the next cigarette. i kept the last half-open pack and the lighter within easy reach (i could have started again in 5 seconds, if i wanted) and did not throw any of my many backup stash packs away.

    the first week was tough, and the smoking dreams persisted for about 15 months, but i no longer crave nicotine in any form.

    as someone who’d smoked 8-12 cigs a day for over 20 years, it definitely wasn’t as hard to quit as people make it out to be (even though this was my fifth attempt to do so in a decade). seriously, quitting cola drinks has been the far tougher challenge for me.

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    I quit smoking 6 years ago. It’s tough honestly, it helps that there are no smokers in my social group. When I’m out with smokers I usually bum a cig, particularly when drinking.

    I was hospitalised for a couple months, I couldn’t physically take myself out for a smoke and the nurses weren’t going to wheel my bed down, so they gave me patches. I figured I’d quit smoking when I got out to continue the work already done.

    I still want to smoke, I like that it gives me something to do and haven’t really found a replacement for it, doom scrolling maybe. It also gave me something easy to manage, if that makes sense, low stakes and easy problem to solve every day. I smoked for 10 years and my habit was just less than a pack a day, sometimes more not often less. Hopefully, it gets easier in 4 years when I’ve been a non-smoker for as long as I was a smoker.

    Transitioning to vaping was easier, I was at or near the vanguard of that movement, when we were building our own coils and shoving batteries into tupawares and blowing ourselves up. Whenever I craved a real cig, I’d buy 10, smoke them and go back to vaping. I’d buy a pack every week, then every month, then every 2 months… I hoped quitting would be the same, it was not.

    One of my friends just woke up a non-smoker the same time that I quit, and our experiences are night and day. I get cravings all the time, this guy: “why would I get cravings? I don’t smoke.” His brain just decided it was done smoking one day.

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    I quit smoking cigarettes around 2018. Cold turkey is the only thing that ever worked. No gum, no patches, and no easing into it. It’s absolute hell in the beginning, but abandonment of the habit is the only thing that worked.

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    I personally went slow. I transitioned from cigarettes to vamping but kept camping for a few years. Then I caught a pretty bad cough and could not vape for 3 days. After that, I decided to not pick it up again as I had already not vapped for so long. That said, I had previously tried quitting and held it for half a year but fell in again.

    My partner recently stopped too (3 years after I did. She also transitioned to vapping but stuck with it longer than me. She cot help though our doctor who prescribed a course paid by the state (we live in Denmark) who gave her a series of 1:1 meetings with a coach, that kept up with her with weekly meetings, options to call whenever she needed help and they also guided and paid for replacements. They recommended lozenges and skin patches as they are less likely to replace the addiction

    I feel like we both had it easy. It is not the case most of the time. The main aspect is that you need to want to quit. If you’re quitting for someone else or if you quit because you’re told to, it’s going to be a lot harder or almost impossible

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    Easy! Turns out smoking not only is a slow kilñer but it raises your stomachs acidic level so that if you have other stressers (high stress job, no regular meals, no breaks, drink to excess, etc) it’s easier for your body to turn on itself and pop a hole in your stomach (aka a bleeding ulcer).

    which then can lead to a moderate (week+) hospital stay, plus special diet for a month, couple weeks rehab, and medication for a time.

    Oh, as a bonus your body will then be subjected to all the fun withdrawals: nicotine, caffeine, alcohol. All cool things when you’re young and indestructible.

    Needless to say I haven’t had a cigarette in over 26yrs.

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    Not a smoker, but…

    Do you drink? Like even just a few drinks per week? Try to stop drinking for 2 months. You can feel part of the addiction, there will be a kind of craving to drink.

    I tried to quit caffeine a few times and failed miserably each time. Once I had a terrible headache and felt like I was slowly loosing consciousness. Luckily I was next to a Starbucks at that moment.