• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    Hah, thanks, but the raw truth of it is that it’s probably too late in the cycle for a third-party candidate with an actual chance to emerge (and I don’t know who the hell would be a popular third party candidate in this environment). In a two-party system like our’s, you either have to win a primary of one of the two parties (which, unfortunately, will be one of the two octogenarians), or hit the ground fucking running like Ross Perot, who came out swinging at 30%+ in polling early in the year.

    Unfortunately, as it stands now, with Trump’s supporters lockstep behind him, most third-party protest votes are likely to take from Biden, not Trump, and simply offer a better chance of a Trump victory. And that is… not a pretty future.

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      8 months ago

      So then we really don’t have a democracy since we’re being forced to only vote for Trump or Biden, instead of other candidates we might align with better?

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        Is this news to you?

        American politics is too binary to be actually considered democratic. This political system has obvious issues, the biggest one you just discovered for yourself.

        If there is only a choice between a and b, with one of them being completely unacceptable, you end up being forced to vote for the other regardless of if they are only marginally better. Voting for a third party under that system is technically possible but only takes away votes from the less terrible choice.

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        8 months ago

        How does that translate to “we don’t really have a democracy”?

        If people didn’t want Trump, they could very easily vote for anyone but him.

        But a lot of people want Trump. That’s the sad fucking fact of it. Which means that the best option is to coalesce around a single candidate in opposition who has the best chance of beating him - which most who aren’t Trump bootlickers have agreed, however reluctantly, is Biden.

        We have a democracy. It’s just that half the people in it crave fascism, and the rest of us are trying to unite with whoever the fuck we can to stop it.

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          8 months ago

          Guess the Dem party needs to work harder on actually giving voters something to vote for rather than something to vote against or they’ll lose. Voters won’t switch to vote Trump, they’ll just stay home.

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            8 months ago

            “I don’t like the boring old guy, therefore, welcome, fascism!”

            Thanks, me and all the other people to be herded into the concentration camps thank you for your stunning dedication to democracy.

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                8 months ago

                Sorry… we’re supposed to blame Democrats if Republicans march us into death camps?

                Were Jews supposed to blame the Weimar Republic for being sent to Auschwitz?

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                  8 months ago

                  If the Democrats don’t excite enough voters and provide enough policies to get out the vote, then yes. They are up blame.