• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    “I know we’re killing you right now, but could you help us save a handful of our people, who we’d like to let live? Thanks.”

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    Have they checked under the rubble of all the buildings they’ve destroyed? We already know they’ve killed their own before, and that the hostages themselves said that’s something they feared was being killed by the IDFs bombs

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    I’m sure that will be to priority instead of trying to save their own lives. /s

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    You know how some days you come back home from a long hard day of work and you don’t want to do anything cause you’re tired so you order delivery. Yeah, imagine having little food, little water, being bombed constantly, being forced to move constantly, having the areas you move to be bombed, fearing for your life constantly and to top it all off the force that is doing this ask you to start a manhunt for some people. This is a sick joke.

  • streetfestival@lemmy.ca
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    This may be an effort to re-assert control over the narrative after a story was published in the Israeli publication Yedioth Ahronoth on January 12th: https://w.ynet.co.il/yediot/7-days/time-of-darkness (the publisher has not yet translated it to English).

    But here is an English translation: https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israeli-hq-ordered-troops-shoot-israeli-captives-7-october#translation

    From https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israeli-hq-ordered-troops-shoot-israeli-captives-7-october:

    At midday on 7 October Israel’s supreme military command ordered all units to prevent the capture of Israeli citizens “at any cost” – even by firing on them.

    The military “instructed all its fighting units to perform the Hannibal Directive in practice, although it did so without stating that name explicitly,” Israeli journalists revealed last weekend.

    Warning: This is emotionally disturbing content. It is well-sourced by Israeli civilians and military personnel. I think it may be a sign that the propaganda machine concealing the IDF’s war crimes is starting to crack. Our understanding of what’s happened over the last several months may be very different a year from now

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Israeli forces have dropped leaflets in Gaza asking residents for help finding hostages taken by Hamas on October 7, as bombardment of the besieged strip continues.

    The leaflets dropped in Rafah, in the south of the Gaza strip, on Saturday featured photos of 33 hostages with their names written in Arabic.

    “They are asking people’s help because they are unable to get to their hostages because of the resistance,” Abu Ali, a north Gaza resident, told Reuters.

    Meanwhile, more than 25,000 Palestinians have been killed since Israel began its aerial bombardment campaign and ground invasion, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.

    The ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants in its death toll but says around two-thirds of those killed were women and children, which is supported by United Nations estimates.

    Several families camped outside one of Netanyahu’s residences on Friday night to protest what they described as government inaction to free their captured relatives.


    The original article contains 312 words, the summary contains 156 words. Saved 50%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • blahsay@lemmy.world
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    Seems pretty sensible. Hamas dismantled and hostages home is Israel’s goal so getting them back would pretty much end the war at this point.

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      Meanwhile, more than 25,000 Palestinians have been killed since Israel began its aerial bombardment campaign and ground invasion, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.

      The ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants in its death toll but says around two-thirds of those killed were women and children, which is supported by United Nations estimates.

      which is supported by United Nations estimates.

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        The ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants in its death toll

        So this is not a reliable source.

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      Their numbers have usually aligned pretty well with NGOs estimations and are generally accepted as more or less trustworthy.

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        7 months ago

        For total count maybe, but they have never made a distinction between their own soldiers and civilians. They want the 25k number misinterpreted as a civilian death count, and have largely succeeded.

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          they have never made a distinction between their own soldiers and civilians.

          I don’t see why you think that’s a problem - Israel has certainly never made a distinction between Hamas soldiers and Palestinian civilians when they bomb them or slaughter them in the street or fire at them when aid is being given out.

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          Most of the death toll is women and children (7k and 10k, respectively). Even if you assume all men killed are Hamas fighters, which is not true, that is very high when compared to the attack which triggered the war.

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            I agree the civilian death toll is outsized, but just to play Devil’s advocate here: Hamas is the group putting out the women and children numbers, and given they don’t make a civilian/soldier distinction they almost certainly are including all soldiers under 18 in the “children” numbers. They want you to picture 10k murdered 6-year-olds, but we don’t actually have a break down by age or child-soldier status. Hopefully we can get some visibility there soon.

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              They’re not just putting out numbers, they’re putting out identifications too. Unless they’re falsely claiming identified women and children are dead, they can’t really manipulate the numbers.

              Also, as another counter point, the numbers are just the people they’ve identified. Thousands more are missing and presumed buried under the rubble, likely dead or dying. The death toll is necessarily an under-count, and might be closer to 30,000 rather than 25,000. Also? There’s around 10 children getting limbs amputated every day, as well as dozens more being severely lacerated and burned. Daily. The death toll isn’t the whole story, but there’s absolutely no way that you can spin this as Hamas just using the fog of war to create confusion.

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                Not disputing any of that except for your conclusion. Hamas lumping their military losses in with civilians is literally using the fog of war to create confusion.

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                  The UN has been very clear about the rights of the child, and child soldiers are universally classified as victims regardless of whether they are armed or affiliated with a militant group. Israel isn’t actually allowed to carpet bomb child soldiers under international law.

                  Stop trying to frame this as the health administration trying to create confusion. Children are classified as civilians, period.

                  Also, wanna know something extremely fucked up? Half of Gaza’s population is under 18 and 70% of the population are under 30. The fact that Hamas uses child soldiers is shaped by the fact that Israel created conditions where boys can’t expect to live long enough to even become men.

                  And now they’re just killing the boys.

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      The first casualty of war is truth. We can trust Hamas as much or more than we can trust Israel. I’m not an expert, but I’d imagine we could find 100 instances of misinformation from Israel for every 1 from Hamas just from how much each group puts out.