Context: looking to build a 4K gaming setup and maintain at least 120 fps. Occasional video editing involved.
Haven’t built a PC in a long time (7-8 yrs at least). Other PC was an Intel but decided to go with AMD this time around since it appears there is minimal difference in terms of performance.
As far as GPU selection, doesn’t seem like there is much diff between 4080 and 4090 so decided to go with the former.
As far as memory and disk, I do realize 128G and 8TB of disk drive is excessive. These might be the areas I will shave off some $$$
For PSU, decided to go with the top tier choice as indicated in this list: https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
PSU is something I would prefer not to skimp on. Also PCpartpicker does not list “ASUS | ROG Loki Platinum” for some reason and just selected a similar model.
Open to suggestions, critique, or roast 😂
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q6NrxH
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 4.4 GHz 12-Core Processor ($488.95 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X73 RGB 52.44 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($224.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 Motherboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Memory: Kingston FURY 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory ($551.85 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T700 W/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($295.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T700 W/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($295.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T700 W/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($295.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T700 W/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 5.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($295.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte AORUS XTREME WATERFORCE GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: HYTE Y60 ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Asus ROG THOR P2 Gaming 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($309.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $4159.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Your paying a big premium for plaid-speed gen 5 ssds, but from what I can the board only has one gen 5 nmve slot, the other 3 are capped at gen 4.
Max gen 4 speed is way below the throughput of those drives (7,880 vs 12,400), so that seems like kind of a waste. You could go with the equivalent gen 4 drives and save about $500.
Oh good call out. Not really familiar with nvme drives, I was initially just wanting to use up all the slots.
Can reduce it to 1 gen5 ssd, which is sort of what I was planning to do anyway with the suggestion to use 4090 chipset
Not much diff between 4080 and 4090? What on earth is your source on that? 4090 is such a monster it literally breaks the charts. It’s the biggest single leap you can make between any two cards of this generation or any generation ever I do believe. It’s 30% more fps in 4k and the only card capable of 120+ FPS on high settings in many titles (without DLSS). Sure if DLSS and/or low settings is fine then yeah the 4080 is good enough but if the goal really is 120 FPS in 4K there really is only one card that can deliver that and it’s the 4090.
My source is just watching a few videos of actual game performance. Like this one: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KDyWkXEvhGM
I did see the diff in fps but was also taking into consideration the cost, cost per performance, and power draw efficiency. 4090 definitely a beast though, but didn’t seem worth the gains.
Might just nix the memory and disk by half and splurge the extra for the 4090 tho
The 4090 is an absolute monster. Overclock a bit and you’ll need a logarithmic scale just to keep the 4080 on the chart.
4090 is more cost effective per performance and power efficiency than 4080 but yeah it does cost more.
Someone already pointed out that a 4090 is a massive upgrade over a 4080, no clue what benchmarks you looked at.
So another suggestion: Why pick a 7900X3D? It’s the worst of both worlds. It only has 6 3D cores for gaming, which might not be enough in the near future (Look up performance benchmarks between a 5600X vs a 5800X for example, there are already games that benefit from more than 6 cores).
If gaming is a focus: Pick a 7800X3D so you get a full 8 3D cores to work with. If productivity is a focus (with gaming on top) splurge for a 7950X3D. You’re already spending an insane amount of money, you might as well get a decent CPU.
Besides that: You are wasting a ton of money on the SSDs. Grab a fast one like that for your Windows drive and for gaming, but for storage there’s much cheaper options (that still deliver 3-6 GB/s, if you even need that). 128 GB of RAM is excessive too, except you have a very clear use-case for it.
Not really any good justification, just found it on a similar build I found on YT or some other social media site.
Where do you find that this CPU “only has 6 3D cores”?
I see in the specs it mentions 12 cores but no mention of “3D cores”: https://www.amd.com/en/product/12736 or maybe it’s listed as something else.
Also good call out on the 7800x3d, the one vid I saw comparing the two in game performance does not seem worth it. Only in a few games did the 7950 perform better. I’ll definitely make that switch and save a couple of hundred dollars
Where do you find that this CPU “only has 6 3D cores”?
It’s common knowledge. 7800X3D = 8 3D cores, 7900X3D = 6 3D cores and 6 normal cores (= 12), 7950X3D = 8 3D cores and 8 normal cores (= 16).
So if you mostly game and don’t need the CPU for productivity tasks you should 100% grab the 7800X3D. If you need a lot of cores then grab the 7950X3D. The 7900X3D is garbage in the middle.
Couple of things:
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You have a bunch of pcie 5x4 SSDs but you only have one pcie 5x4 slot. You should replace most of them with pcie 4x4 and bear in mind you may not have space for huge heat sinks on each
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the case has a top mount spot only for the 360mm radiator you chose. You need to buy some exhaust fans (120mm or 140mm) for general airflow.
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the problem with bigger and better PSUs is that… Well, they’re bigger. Double check the dimensions of the PSU will fit the slot your case has allotted before you splurge on it. I highly doubt you’d need 1kW with that spec so consider dropping the overall wattage a bit as needed.
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Your gpu is water-cooled it seems like. Make sure you have space for the second radiator, because you’ve already occupied the only 360mm slot.
Thanks. Going to make a few tweaks. I’m thinking of only using 1 5x4 ssd and reduce memory by half.
Also the second radiator shouldn’t be a problem on this case. Not sure if it shows on pcpartpicker but the manufacturer site mentions areas for 360 mm radiators in 2 areas (top and side)
Edit: on the topic of the 1 kW PSU, isn’t it better to have more capacity? Especially since I’m considering upgrading to the 4090
It looks like the radiator support for 360mm is limited to the top side. I also think the case was designed around vertical air cooled gpus or a custom cooling loop for the whole assembly. However I would honestly recommend against a water cooled gpu in this case. You’ve already got an AIO with the CPU, and an air cooled gpu in this set up will have no problem with airflow.
As for power, just get what you need and add like a 15/20% buffer minimum for the misc things like rgb or small fans. The rated TDP of all devices is available in their spec sheet.
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Id personally ditch the 4 dimm memory setup seeing your mobo is only dual channel, and you risk stressing your IMC, which may hinder performance and possible lead to advertised clock speeds being not stable. Id go with dual sticks with a lower CL and latancy at roughly 6000mhz-6200mhz advertised speeds.
But likely wouldn’t be too much of an issue with 4 dimms in duel channel at 5600mhz, seeing thats at the mid-lower end of the performance charts of DDR5.
Total: $4159.73
that sounds like a lot
Going all in bro (also it’s going down a bit with the changes I considered in the comments)
