• gregorum@lemm.ee
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    It does not say you should be intolerant of the intolerant while they’re minding their own business

    it is a fallacy that the intolerant mind their own business. being intolerant is, itself, an active state, not a passive one, and one to be actively resisted. being intolerant involves choice, a choice to be intolerant. there is no “minding one’s own business” in being intolerant, as being intolerant necessarily involves minding the business of others.

    so your argument is, itself, spurious for it is fallacious in its foundation.

    gtfo with your nazi apologism

    The Paradox of Tolerance

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      gtfo with your nazi apologism

      That was so fast, you make me rub my temples in pain, my guy.

      So, people are people, they aren’t their ideals. People have more than one state of mind, they aren’t 2D cardboard cutouts (or drawings of red skull). Life would be easier if they were, I agree, but the world is more complex than that.

      People are born into environments they have no control over. People are handed ideals before they know what they are. People learn from their environment. People change their minds about things. You literally wouldn’t bother commenting right now if you didn’t agree with me.

      If a person is sitting peacefully, let them. If a person is taking any action to impede any other person’s ability to sit peacefully, then stop them. But don’t attack a person who is sitting peacefully, because they’ll probably want to attack you, or someone else, back.

      Now call me a nazi again, and we can agree to disagree. Jfc.

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        That was so fast, you make me rub my temples in pain, my guy.

        Good

        People are born into environments they have no control over

        Nobody is born a Nazi. That is a choice someone makes.

        If a person is sitting peacefully

        Being a Nazi isn’t “peaceful.” There is no “peaceful” state of being a Nazi. Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain of the United Kingdom taught the world that 1936 when he tried to leave Nazi Germany sitting peacefully alone.

        gtfo with you Nazi apologism

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          The difference between us is, I want Nazis to renounce their Nazi-ism. You don’t.

          I don’t believe you’ll always be this way. I believe you can change. Godspeed.

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            The difference between us is, I want Nazis to renounce their Nazi-ism. You don’t.

            you’ve made another mistake: assuming you can read my mind. you can’t, of course. and, in making that assumption, not only were you wrong, you came to the wrong conclusion-- it’d be thrilled if Nazis renounced their beliefs.

            However, in the meantime, neither they nor their beliefs should be tolerated, and you haven’t made any argument that compels me to believe otherwise.

            and attacking me personally rather than my argument is a pretty weak ad hominem fallacy, as i’ve demonstrated. so is using the straw man argument about “changing their beliefs” rather than what we were discussing: tolerating them.

            I don’t believe you’ll always be this way. I believe you can change

            i suggest you stick with the facts rather than beliefs and logical fallacies. they make for a better argument.

            gtfo with your nazi apologism

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        Nazi’s whole ideology is that they see themselves better than everyone else and they are willing to kill the “lesser beings” in order to make the world “pure”.

        It is literally the genocide ideology.

        There are no good Nazi’s, because if a Nazi was good, they wouldn’t be a Nazi.