Seems quite relevant indeed.
To the stance above: if people prefer to have a unified experience managed by a corporation, that’s okay.
There are enough people on the Internet to keep a few places actives. The Fediverse and Blueskey can coexist.
all its content became unavailable?
All the feddit.de content is still available on https://lemmy.world/c/dach@feddit.de and all the other instances which where federated.
Most people won’t switch though, they won’t want to lose their username, their feed and so on, we’re creatures of habits…
You can keep your username, export and import your subscriptions and block list in two clicks from the settings.
Hell, trolls could go around and recreate accounts on the top 100 instances with the same username users have on other instances to prevent them from reusing the same username elsewhere, just that is a weird concept to explain “Oh yeah, someone else can create an account and pretend to be you and unless people notice that the instance they’re from isn’t the same, there’s no way to know it isn’t you!”
“You are bob@gmail.com, but someone could create bob@outlook.com and pretend to be you”
Also, this kind of impersonating would probably get the trolls banned.
You’re sending users to Lemmy.we but in the end it’s an instance controlled by one person paying the hosting fees and with the last word on what goes on on their server.
Lemm.ee had 5 admins. The main one has been very clear that he keeps defederation to a minimum: https://lemm.ee/post/35472386?scrollToComments=true
Of course you need to trust him and his team.
If you prefer a paid model where you have a customer relationship with the admin, you might to have a look at https://communick.com/services/lemmy/
The owner is @rglullis@communick.news , who commented below
I always point new users to Lemm.ee nowadays.
another admin can decide to defederated from yours anytime they feel like it, that’s still a lot of power in the hands of a single person…
All of the top 20 instances ask feedback from their communities before defederating. They know that if they don’t, people will switch instances in two clicks.
I wouldn’t hold my breath. Reddit appeal system is known to be very bad.
Yeah, I have a few alts, don’t worry 😄
I’m pessimistic about Lemmy these days.
Why? The userbase is quite stable, and new platform are emerging (Piefed, Mbin), and more people are probably going to come the next time Reddit messes up
This will all keep happening until we decide we have been tricked one-too-many times by centralized platforms. The only way to escape the hellish state of the current internet is to pursue options that drag the network back towards its decentralized state; a state where corporations are unable to control who we talk to, what we see, where our attention is for five or more hours a day, every day.
This will keep happening until we abandon centralization and choose and free, open source, decentralized future. Or else the beatings will continue until morale improves.
That’s great
i like having every post (from mastodon, lemmy, peertube, threads, pixelfed) in one single place
Have you tried http://fedia.io/ ? It has both Mastodon and Lemmy included in one place
Thanks for sharing, that’s another level
Thanks!
Yes, that’s also the big issue: migration.
While, to be fair, if LW moves to lemmy.world to piefed.world as the main site and keeps LW alive for archiving purposes, it should be okay. Discussions don’t go over for that long anyway.
If you’re still on reddit at this point, there’s nothing short of Spez showing up and killing your cat that’s going to make you leave.
There are a few reasons why people on Reddit prefer to stay there rather than move elsewhere
We are kind of working on the first one (and anyway, the only way to get content is to get more and more users)
For the second one, that’s something even harder to tackle. !newcommunities@lemmy.world tries to fill that gap, but same as above, it needs more users.
The third one is the most interesting. At some point in the future, Reddit is going to kill old.reddit. By that time, people will look for an alternative, and if they know about Lemmy, they’ll give it a try.
unless you’re better in some way that a normal person will care about.
Lemmy is better than Reddit on the following points:
It’s just not enough at the moment, as stated above.
the promise of seamless interop between my social apps was what brought me to the fediverse, so that’s the version of the fediverse I will pursue.
That’s fair.
For some other people the appeal of the Fediverse is to be able to manage the instances themselves, and Bluesky still isn’t there yet on that side (and probably won’t, as it would prevent them from generating revenue if someone can just open a server and connect to their network)
The homepage contains the communities (e.g. Lemmy): https://fedia.io/
The microblog page contains the… microblogs (e.g. Mastodon): https://fedia.io/microblog
That’s why I said it’s two different views, you can’t have everything at the same time, it’s one or the other
Agreed with most of your points
I also think recruiting new users might be a more useful use of time than trying to just rely on poaching them from somewhere else, but uh, I couldn’t tell you really how that should or could be done.
/r/RedditAlternatives is basically the one place we have now. We mention Lemmy there regularly, so hopefully over time it will work.
Even on Mbin, the microblogging and link aggregator are two different parts of the software.
If someone from Mastodon posts to an Mbin magazine, it would still look “out of the place” the same way it would in a Lemmy community
And frankly, if Mastodon devs don’t appear to care, why is everyone else so concerned about it?
Some people think that because Mastodon and Lemmy are both using ActivityPub, Lemmy could gain some users if Mastodon users could interact with Lemmy.
But this seems to overlook that microblogging and link aggregation are two very different ways to interact with content.
Reddit probably has the highest reserve for potential Lemmy users, just because they are more used to link aggregators.
Nice article,
Kind of funny to see a very recent comment from @nutomic@lemmy.ml highlighted
Otherwise, nice article