Yep. The Dow was not only under 50 thousand, it was under 48K. I guess she’s ready to talk about pedophiles in the administration she works for now?

It’s one thing to see the grinning sycophants in the admin saying it, it’s really wild when you see someone parroting this in person at the ground level.

You expect that stupid shit-eating grin on the likes of Kevin Hasset the smirking chipmunk or when Mikey Johnson is gaslighting all of America, but when you see someone repeat this IRL it really is something: “But Turnip has to dig out from under Biden’s terrible economy…”

I’ve asked a few of these people IRL exactly what was so bad about Biden’s economy toward the end of 2024? I still haven’t gotten an answer that was anywhere near to cogent…

I wonder if Pam wants to discuss Trump’s stock market.

I think they’ll be just as selective about this (and the huge dips right after his stupid and illegal tariffs were announced) just like they are about Donvict’s economy in 2020.

They act like it’s no fair to talk about the economy then because of Covid. Sorry, that kind of thing comes with the job, too. And honestly, I don’t know what he really did in his first term that would have boosted the economy anyway since Obama already had it on a great path.

Maybe. It’s still near ATH, but they could sell off now, wait for things to go to something in the range of late 2008/early 2009 and start pushing all that money in then.

Exactly. It should be worded that getting preventable diseases like measles when you “shield” yourself or others from the proven preventative care is precisely the expected outcome.

We’ll see how much of the non-legacy doesn’t if/when it becomes a problem for the Epstein class.

LOL, but she was just describing rural life, something no liberals could possibly ever know or understand. Sometimes you just have to shoot your dog in the face, and because you already have your bloodlust going, you have to shoot your goat, too.

I mean, there are just no other options for rural livin’. It’s nasty stuff that requires a cool and calm rational mind and no liberals could ever, ever understand, because no liberals ever existed outside the Big City.

Yes, I fully understand all the caveats and the frustrations with the Democratic Party. I think a great deal of Democrats are in the camp you describe, including me.

I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about what seems to be a relatively small (but very vocal and quite smug) subset of the left that offer no truly viable options and then go on to lecture about how America and the DNC/Democratic Party deserves this kind of thing…if I didn’t have a few of these types in my life, I’d think the online ones were an orchestrated campaign to throw elections to the right.

There are often several headlines per day that put the lie to how Republicans would be no different than the Democrats, and yet I’ve yet to see one of these types admit they were wrong or apologize for their claims. I mean, I get the fire in the belly - I was once a teenager, too. The sad part is that some of the people I know personally like this are way past the teen years.

Anecdotally, conversations with the terminally online type of leftists shows many to be still quite self-satisfied about not voting for Kamala, though.

Because, bOtHsIdEs would have started a religious war on behalf of a secular country.

It’s the RWA (Right Wing Authoritarian) mindset.

I think every American should be required to read Bob Altemeyer’s The Authoritarians in school.

But asking our public schools, especially while under the influence of the unhinged right wing and the reactionary centrists, to give citizens a real education is probably asking a lot.

“He says what I’m thinking!”

– So many drumpffucks

I know, right? There are actual experts that Donvict could have sought out and tapped, but he chooses to load up his clown car with geniuses like this because actual experts probably won’t be quite loyal enough…

Donvict saw Petey on the TV and thinks that qualifies him…

“No stupid rules of engagement”?

Too late.

Hand that man a Nobel Peace Prize!

Any question not accompanied by a hand job (at least).

This drunk dumbass has no business doing that job.

Life is hard and it seems like people are constantly fighting and dying around you from the moment you’re born. It’s all you know. Everyone around you is sick, destitute, and miserable. There are no jobs. You have no education. You know nothing but struggle and see no future for yourself.

The army is the only hand reaching out and offering to help pull you up, so you grab it.

I grew up in a very rural area. This describes the situation there decades ago.

I don’t have exact numbers, but I would say something like 10-15% of my class actually went on to higher education. Probably less, and definitely less than that finished.

Very, very many went into some branch of the military. When the first war on Iraq started I figured that might be our generation’s Vietnam and that many of my graduating class would be fodder for it. Luckily for them, that ended up not being the case.

In any case, songs like Born in the USA and Fortune Son really land pretty hard…

Well, that, and mail-in voting is very hard to disrupt by having people stand around in long lines during a workday or by stationing cops/ICE or whatever outside of voting locations.

And those 1 in 4 are probably unreachable.

I feel like I’m listening to a car salesman

That’s all this asshole ever was and ever will be, really. Guy made shitty real estate deals as a nepobaby failson and had a very big mouth. That’s pretty much all he is.

Most of the people in NYC, and probably most of the people on the Eastern seaboard, tended to know who he was even by the early 90s. If they paid even the least bit of attention. But that stupid gameshow and that dumb book gave a whole lot of idiots the idea that he was really something more and somehow worthy of giving any power.