It’s as though you’re attempting to fulfill a brief:

Discourage pushback against the Trump regime at all costs. Amplifying the idea that resistance is futile.

I see you.

Don’t blow their cover

It’s a tough call.

If enough paranoia can be generated within ICE, the more resources they’ll need to divert to internal investigations, and the less effective they’ll be while still having power.

They said they would be guardians of power for a thousand generations. The reich lasted 12 years.

So they lasted less than a thousandth of the length of time that they chipped about.

Therefore, we should always disregard the boasting of fascists.

So given that it’s this year theyre going full nazi, you can expect them out in 2037.

There are parallels, but Hitler wasn’t an elderly incontinent man with dementia. While both men are fucking idiots, one of them had functioning short term memory, and was able to not shit himself.

Also, have you given any sort of thought to how many firearms are floating out there in civilian hands?

I mean if you’re putting yourself in an ice officers shoes, I already can’t really get there in my mind.

Whatever helps you slide past the point I’m making.

Or for a promotion right now if they find out any of their peers have any family of hired help that are immigrants. Why wait?

Yes. Collecting evidence such as this, such that when the regime falls, the person who earned that promotion through betrayal would not be able to escape justice easily.

You’ve provided an excellent example of who I’d collect as much data as humanly possible on.

No you just seem to have rose coloured glasses.

The Trump regime is in the middle of committing and attempting to accelerate crimes against humanity.

I anticipat the fall being anything but rosy.

How many people do you expect to be left to charge?

After the regime falls, the people left to charge will be entirely dependent on how well American citizens scrape ICE agent data.

They are suddenly going to realize they are the bad guys and lay their weapons down? Is this your assumption?

No. I think that they’ll haphazardly try to cover their tracks. See their current insistence on opacity to verify this.

Also, you think they are just going to ignore the person complacency? Oh it’s great you killed a bunch of people and want to finger your neighbours, why didn’t you stop them during it?This isn’t going to turn out positive for anyone trying to collect this information, unless you’re high up. The peons are just gonna get fucked in every situation.

I can’t follow the rest of your word salad. But my prediction is that the smart ones will throw the dumb ones under the bus to save their own skin.

You seem to be stuck with the mistaken belief that the Trump regime is going to stay in power for a long time.

You also don’t seem to grasp the concept that one can compile evidence and sit on it, until such time that it can be used to help get justice.

If you were an ICE agent, you’d be the one thrown under the bus, because you’d be oblivious to your coworkers collecting dirt on you.

They also took meticulous notes regardless (they’re German after all), which helped the Nuremberg prosecutors.

It’d be smart to do the modern day equivalent, and scrape all the data possible.

With diligent data collection, an intrepid ICE agent would be able to escape mostly unscathed, if they were able to provide evidence to convict enough high value targets within ICE.

Interesting thought but I can’t see it.

You’re an average guy, unemployed, and take a position with ICE. You see with your own eyes that there is near zero good going on. You see very bad things, and recognize that there is no way for this apparatus to go away quietly, given the lengths that they’ve gone through to keep outside eyes away from their concentration camps.

You feel imminent collapse.

Do you keep working like nothing is happening, or do you start thinking about how to avoid persecution?

Do you think their spouses, children, parents, neighbors know what they do? Do they just say “it’s classified” and pretend that they have a real job?

There are no people who work for ICE with zero outsiders knowing what they do.

I don’t think they’re that introspective. Pretty sure they all think “this is so anteefuh can’t find out who I am and kidnap muh kids”. Action hero delusions

Most will be too stupid, and will be the ones using I Was Just Following Orders as their defense.

Presents lists, gets arrested anyways.How do you think this will play out? They’re either going to get caught with it, or it’s useless when the regime collapses as they’ll likely be mostly dead anyways. It’s useless as long as the regime remains, and keeping it is a time bomb waiting to go off, and not just for you, you’re a risking your family and friends too.

This message has been brought to you but Team Learned Helplessness.

When the regime falls, maybe do everyone a solid and stay the fuck out of the way.

Personally I can’t picture an ICE agent that is anticipating a regime change within their lifetime, but I could be wrong.

There is a very specific reason that ICE agents and other collaborators strive to hide their identities.

They would not feel the need to do so if they believed, deep down where it counts, that they were on the right side of history, and that the regime will last indefinitely.

As in nope thinking the regime is going to fall is just copium hopium

Refresh my memory. How long were they boasting that the Third Reich would last?

Where are people getting this idea that there will ever be any type of trails for this? I’ve even seen some talking about the Hague, which is particularly laughable because the US has an invasion policy specifically regarding the Hague, predating Trump.

I’d absolutely count on your attitude to be pervasive while I was collecting my cover-your-ass dirt on my co workers.

Their sense of invincibility would be vital for me throwing them under the bus.

Were there Nazis who did this?

No. They all stayed super duper loyal to each other when the heat was on.

If i was one of the smarter ICE agents, I’d absolutely promote the helplessness you’re selling.

That way, the other agents are more likely to have their guards down while I compiled evidence.

Nope.

As in nope, none of them are smart enough, or nope, they place loyalty to each other over self-interest?

Lock his dumbass in one of those chambers overnight

Have two uniformed goons fast walk him to one of those chambers.

Watch the denialist completely lose his denialism, and fight for his life.

So the whole world is suffering, because he wilfully ignored every indicator that Trump would absolutely behave this way.

With any luck, someone who matters to him will be scooped by ICE. That way, he can also experience the intense fear and anxiety that comes from voting enthusiastically for tyranny.

I’d be so mindful of how i spoke, if I had a Backpfeifengesicht like him.