Right. I was saying that Hexbear isn’t a cult on the same level as the named examples, that it’s just some people with a different view of global politics than the norm, in response to a commenter who insisted that they were a dangerous cult that should be stamped out.
Any state can, but many don’t. And the point here was to explain why I don’t believe that blaming famine deaths on Mao Zedong is a justified position to take, when the cycle of famine was ended under his watch.
When I was a kid they taught penmanship too. I was awful at it but then when I was an adult I had a job where I actually had to use those skills and I was glad to have them - same with everything I learned in Home Ec, most the stuff I learned in wood/metal/auto shop, etc. I think all of those classes are extinct now, based on how people talk about school never teaching them anything useful.
We were talking about cults, I brought them up as an example. I could have just as easily used Scientology.
Beautiful pup! I hope mine still looks that good at 15.5
The fact that they don’t tell you in the average anticommunist pop history youtube video is that China had been experiencing famines pretty much every single year for a thousand years by the time the Communists took over. The last famines occurred under Communist rule, but it is because of Communist policies that the cyclical famines stopped. This applies to the USSR as well.
Yes we can look back and see that killing the sparrows was a bad idea, but on the whole collectivized farms produced more food per hectare than smallholder farms did, and the policies of the Communists are what brought in sufficient numbers of tractors and other farming equipment to modernize outdated practices in rural regions. Without the Communists the simple fact is that the famines would have happened anyway, they would have been worse, and there would have been more of them.
This is the reason why, even when you include the famine deaths in your data, the average lifespan under Mao doubled from what it had been when the Republic of China controlled the mainland. The Communists won the war precisely because they treated peasants better than the then-central government did, and when they took power they enacted policies that massively improved the lives of everyone in China, and still continue to do so.
Tell me, how did Reconstruction go? Were the former slaves elevated to the status of citizens equal to their former masters?
No. The great post-Civil War failure of America was its failure to defend the gains made by the freed slave population, allowing the previous ruling class to swoop back in and reassert their power in a nearly-identical form to how it had been before. Sharecropping instead of slavery. This failure demonstrates quite succinctly why any social or economic justice movement cannot simply win the war - it must also continue to defend itself after the war, and that defense will by necessity take the form of repressing those members of the former ruling class who cannot accept the new status quo.
If you don’t condone class war, then you are by necessity endorsing the current system. The current system which kills far, far more innocent people than any class war ever could, you lying, capitalist piece of shit.
Equality has never in the history of our species been given freely by the ruling class to the workers. It has always been taken after violent struggle, and after the initial struggle is over the working class must be willing to defend their gains else they will lose them.
All kulaks were assigned to one of three categories:[4]
Source four on this wikipedia article is Robert Conquest, an antihistorical Cold Warrior if there ever was one - and most of the rest of that article doesn’t even do the courtesy of citing a hack. It’s just section after section of “this section has no sources”, who wrote this garbage?
If someone shot your grandpa and your uncle
Some brave Vietnamese soldier did exactly that, and my uncle frankly deserved it for signing up to go murder people on the other side of the world in the name of American Imperialism.
I don’t understand your justification for what is ultimately pretty horrific treatment foisted on people ultimately just participating lawfully in society up until that point.
Slaveowners were “just participating lawfully in society” too. Society sanctions a lot of incredibly damaging and amoral behavior, and when the repressed take power there is no reason why they should be expected to give their oppressors a pass just because it was legal at the time.
They said “tens of millions”, the only number of people killed that matches that scope is the number of enemy combatants in world war 2.
Regardless, the Kulaks and the Landlords deserved it.
See: Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, North Korea…
Actually sanctions don’t work at all, what’s happening here is the result of a war of attrition.
I read “groom” as “goon” and for a second thought the marriage had been annulled when the woman saw her new husband’s basement.
Music from 2004-2010 is the best and all other music is for old people or stupid kids.
the tens of millions of dead both, Stalin and Mao, were responsible for.
Oh no! Won’t somebody think of the Nazis and Japanese invaders?
the authority they feel they deserve
Facists argue that a certain group deserves authority, communists argue precisely the opposite, that the current regime with authority doesn’t deserve it and it should be apportioned equally and democratically instead. Because you live in a world where 99% of the media is controlled by the capitalists, you have been conditioned since birth to believe that every single movement of the people was actually a movement of a small group of elites, and that the countries that are currently exclusively controlled by their elites are in some way democratic.
I’m pretty sure the average age on HB is mid-late twenties.
The comrade in it actually suggests that there is a time and place for such rhetoric
Perhaps now is the time.
The kulaks were not an ethnic minority persecuted by the bolsheviks as a scapegoat for society’s ills. They were the economic class directly responsible for many of those ills. They were the capitalists of the peasantry, enclosing land and claiming ownership over what should have been the common means of production, precisely the kind of group that communists the world over want to destroy in order to liberate the majority of people.
When it was written that the kulaks were to be “liquidated”, it did not mean that they were to be mass executed, it meant that their private property was to be moved into public ownership, ending the existence of the kulak class and making them into regular workers.
As is the case in every single campaign of economic or social justice, the privileged class fought back with everything they had. Kulaks contributed to the Soviet Famine of 1930-1933 by mass slaughtering their cattle and burning their fields. Kulaks hoarded grain, took the wealth that they had stolen from their neighbors and fled the country, plotted sabotage and insurrection against the workers’ movement. And for those crimes, many Kulaks were caught and executed.
So if the original commenter’s great grandparents were kulaks who “suffered at the hands of the soviet union,” they deserved it.
The Falun Gong are, right now, kidnapping children and brainwashing them into being performers for their shitty dance troupe. These performers are not paid, cannot leave The Compound, and cannot contact their family. That’s a cult that the government should stamp out.
Hexbear is a bunch of people with a different opinion on the western world’s designated Enemy Governments. They’re not in the same ballpark, or even playing the same sport.
I’ve seen a bunch of articles about it this past week. With Biden there were a lot of prominent liberal voices calling for him to step down, not to mention the absolute lack of enthusiasm within the rank and file that was showing in polls - with Trump the party’s rank and file are on his side no matter what, so if a prominent conservative calls for him to step down they will be ostracized for it.