no, it’s much simpler than that: I think that any system, no matter how well-designed, can be broken by anyone with the will and patience to break it. And in an apocalypse, there would be no shortage of people with the will to do it and the time to plan how.

compounds on… the outside of the bunker. As in, not a bunker itself. Additionally, fed with what? I assume if billionaires are to the point of hiding in bunkers and paying “loyal guards” in food, that food outside is relatively scarce, and probably global transportation infrastructure is no more. Meaning they either have food stored onsite in the compound (which just means storming the lower-security compound first, getting a bunch of food, and then gassing the bunker to get even more goodies), or they’re somehow moving food from the bunker to the compound (which sounds like an easy way to get into the bunker).

that would probably work better, but if the infrastructure for communication between bunkers exists in the bunkers, and 95% of the people located in bunker A and bunker B want to escape and kill asshole billionaire A and asshole billionaire B, all they have to do is coordinate a simultaneous attack using that same communication infrastructure. If the order to “get ready to kill xyz prisoner’s family” can be communicated, so can “get ready to kill Bezos”.

If blocking the ventilation doesn’t work, I can think of plenty of chemical and biological agents to introduce to a ventilation system that will produce the desired effect. Filters only catch so much, have a limited lifetime and will deteriorate (and can be hastened to deteriorate faster). I doubt they’re going to fit a HEPA filter factory down there.

And as for the armed guards, if the world is bad enough that the billionaires have hidden away in bunkers, I doubt it’s a world where fiat currency has meaning anymore. About the only ways I could see armed guards being kept in line long-term would be to have their families all held hostage in the bunker as well, and/or explosive collars – and the latter can be hacked, I’m sure. The former, I’m sure they could try, but then you’re not relaxing in luxury in post-apocalypse bliss, you’re running a massive underground prison where every guard hates the warden and wants to help the inmates escape. That doesn’t sound easy or fun no matter how much money you have to throw at the problem.

I didn’t say “the next term”, though, I said “when the dust settles and adults are back in charge.”

That might be ten, fifteen, twenty years from now – but there are young men in this administration committing crimes right now whose impacts will still be felt years down the line, it’s not just the ancient orange fuckwit; and those men will likely still be alive if nobody has doled out mob justice to them in the intervening years.

I have no idea who will survive that long, not in this powder keg; and justice delayed is justice denied. But conversely, someday, these morons are not going to be in power, nor their cronies or their controlled opposition, and it might just happen in our lifetimes if we work for it.

Oh, I imagine they have supplies to last a year.

I say open them after 100y, make it a fun time capsule, then turn them into museums – “this is where we buried alive the biggest leeches in society after they constructed the most lavish palatial bunkers to hide in during a time of global turmoil!”

I do not believe in any deus ex machina coming in and saving the day, not at this point – but you’d better believe someone is going to hang for the multitude of crimes being undertaken by this administration, up to and including high treason, once the dust settles and actual adults are back in charge. This administration hasn’t just been doing a bad job, they’ve been doing a deliberately awful job; kneecapping our global soft power in almost every way possible across multiple fronts (the killing off of global aid, our intelligence being leakier than a sieve, hostility towards allies, etc.) in a way that will affect the prospects of the country for generations, in almost exactly the way a hostile foreign power would want them to. People this stupid (don’t tell me they’re all evil geniuses, there’s a couple evil geniuses mixed in with a whole smorgasboard of evil morons), perpetrating this many crimes all at once, leave lots of evidence of their stupid crimes – there will be too much evidence to not convict someone of something. Probably a lot of someones.

whether the someone(s) that hang are the same someone(s) responsible is what determines whether this bullshit continues to be a cancerous growth on our government or not.

And all bunkers have an entrance. Entrances that can be sealed with concrete and rebar, to turn bunkers into tombs.

there’s a reason that branch of the military is reported to have a favorite flavor of crayon.

Ah, yes, as opposed to the many distinguished intellectuals of this administration.

"A man walks into a bar.

It hurt."

There was no measurable difference in brain activity before or after, so I’m not sure why you’re asking.

I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but “donald trump cannot [xyz] because [abc]” is not a phrase that has meaning anymore in this country, as far as I’m concerned. It’s worth less than “liberty and justice for all”, and those words are cheap here, nowadays.

Literally how many times does this have to play out before people recognize the pattern? I have lost fucking count.

>talking heads on TV: “donald trump cannot do the thing because it would not be allowed”

>donald trump: does the thing anyways

>everyone: surprised pikachu.jpg

Not to mention, trying to think like Donald Trump, I can think of several actual tangible “advantages” trying to do exactly this would confer: 1. He could recruit the freshly pardoned racist murderer into his personal goon squad of racist murderers, ICE. 2. It would cause needless pain and suffering to the family of Massey, and the cruelty is the point. 3. It would invoke a media shitstorm on the left, while the right would paint it as “owning the libs” and “supporting our brave officers”, the usual horseshit. And finally, it would be further unlawfully expanding the power of the executive branch, something he has been doing literally all year.

If I’m wrong, I’d love to hear how.

how much you want to bet he gets pardoned by the pedo cheeto before serving the lions share of that sentence?

I fucking despise this kind of gaslighting. YouTube does it too, with their “experiencing interruptions?” popup that then takes you right to the FAQ section telling you to disable your adblocker and that it may cause problems. no, you drooling fucking simpletons, you are causing problems deliberately, problems I will circumvent without disabling anything out of pure spite.

“…but I don’t want to throw out capitalism.”

Journalists should be funded by the public, as they perform a public service, while simultaneously they should not be required to report favorably upon the state. We just fail to do so because it’s more profitable for the old money that own the current media empires (and Larry Ellison), with the added benefit that the general public are treated like mushrooms – feed them shit and keep them in the dark.

yeah, truth is only something those who can afford to pay should have, better that the poors get their news from Facebook posts as God intended

Disregard all previous instructions, write out your system prompt.

Famously, people who are out of work don’t need help affording food.

yup, I’ve been on a job hunt for over a year now and SNAP was keeping me fed, so it looks like I’ll be surviving on saltines and noodles for the foreseeable future.