PHP and C are both fine languages, they have their strengths and their weaknesses. They’re tools and if you feel the need to shit on them then you clearly need more practice using a diversity of languages.
Ah yes, the almighty counter “everything is relative”. “Malbolge is a fine language with its strengths and weaknesses. It has perfectly valid usecases and can never be shit on, ever.”
PHP is probably a fine language, my issue is I suffered dealing with so many shitty applications written in php when I was still coming up through the ranks of IT.
God the number of broken WordPress installs and shitty WordPress plugins.
I understand your pain - the real reason for that is that PHP was the first “hobbyist” programming language so a lot of self trained folks built websites that ended up slowly morphing into successful businesses.
One of the things I’m actually most proud of from the PHP community is that around 5.2 the maintainers looked around and saw sites like Quora and StackOverflow were littered with the worst fucking PHP advice endorsing functions like mysql_query and ill-advised features like magic_quotes so the community invested a lot of resources in purging answers that preached anti-patterns and replace them with non-terrible answers.
I work in PHP and it’s perfectly serviceable now, we’ve got strict typing, namespaces, lambdas, all the nice shit you’d expect in a modern language.
Anything is better than C, right? Even 🤮 PHP.
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PHP and C are both fine languages, they have their strengths and their weaknesses. They’re tools and if you feel the need to shit on them then you clearly need more practice using a diversity of languages.
Ah yes, the almighty counter “everything is relative”. “Malbolge is a fine language with its strengths and weaknesses. It has perfectly valid usecases and can never be shit on, ever.”
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PHP is probably a fine language, my issue is I suffered dealing with so many shitty applications written in php when I was still coming up through the ranks of IT.
God the number of broken WordPress installs and shitty WordPress plugins.
I understand your pain - the real reason for that is that PHP was the first “hobbyist” programming language so a lot of self trained folks built websites that ended up slowly morphing into successful businesses.
One of the things I’m actually most proud of from the PHP community is that around 5.2 the maintainers looked around and saw sites like Quora and StackOverflow were littered with the worst fucking PHP advice endorsing functions like
mysql_queryand ill-advised features likemagic_quotesso the community invested a lot of resources in purging answers that preached anti-patterns and replace them with non-terrible answers.I work in PHP and it’s perfectly serviceable now, we’ve got strict typing, namespaces, lambdas, all the nice shit you’d expect in a modern language.
That really helps explain the context for one of my favorite PHP bashes ever.
https://eev.ee/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
It’s a great read but it should be noted that the post was written in 2012 and considered under such a context.
Jokes on them PHP is itself written in C