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    Our elected leaders betray us for money like breathing, our wealth class uses their power to pillage our commons and coerce ever more exploitative labor using the government that was supposed to protect us from their power as their personal cudgel, and we basically hate one another due to the owner’s media propaganda machine intentionally keeping us divided and misinformed so we can never unite to challenge them.

    What, you want we should rally around pride in our nation’s supposedly admirable history? The genocide parts, the slavery parts, non-crony capitalist foreign nation destabilization parts, the state sanctioned union busting parts, or the eugenics parts?

    How about something from the last week of history, like making it legal to make it illegal for our fellow citizens to exist in public places without a home they can’t afford? Is that what we should take pride in? Demonstrating cruelty to the most destitute members of our society that we have all collectively already failed the most to feel superior and get them out of our sight?

    Fuck this place. Yes there are other horrible nation states that thrive on inhumanity, but that in no way absolves us of ours, especially with all the inhumanity in the form of poison pill “free market advocacy” that our diplomats, military, and multinationals pressure other nation states to become to make them as greedy and sociopathic a society as possible and make their markets accessible for our egotistical capitalists to grow their dragon hoards with as the numbers of homeless Americans continues to explode.

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    The corruption began at least with Reagan and continued until it was cemented with Citizens United. Now a large portion of politicians are bought and sold useless, spineless con artists and so many idiot voters eat it right up.

    How can I, a citizen of many decades, be proud of a country that allowed itself to devolve so easily and quickly?

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    Maybe if there wasn’t a whole month known as Pride where American Conservatives spend the entire time doing everything they can to demean and denounce an entire large segment of the population, I’d have more pride in America.

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    the fact that i saw so many people saying happy 4th on social media was sickening

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      I’m proud of my country and you will not shame me for it. I’m happy to live in the longest surviving democracy in the world.

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        uh huh “democracy” keep telling yourself that buddy and keep licking that boot.

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          Obama came out of nowhere and brushed aside the elites, Trump did the same eight years later. (Amusingly, Hillary was the adorned one both times)

          I may not always like who others vote for, but, I am damn proud we get together every few years and do so.

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            Wow youre actually really fucking stupid, literally fist fuck yourself dumbass.

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    Good. Patriotism goes hand in hand with nationalism, xenophobia, and racism. How could it possibly not?

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    I always thought pride is meant for achievement not an accidental birth place. Symbolism seldom helps a society

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    At this point I think it’s unlikely we’re going to avoid bloodshed in this election - pride is low because a lot of people are fucking terrified… especially with the Supreme Court

    (Legal Eagle’s commentary on the recent ruling https://youtu.be/MXQ43yyJvgs )

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    Greater than 2/3 of the people are either “very proud” or “extremely proud” to be American. Maybe not where it was but it’s still a large majority. I’m not in that majority, personally, but I’m used to feeling like an outsider in my own country. I think that’s part of the reason I find it SO hard to stay engaged in the political process in this country. I just have a very different vision for America, a very different idea of what I want America to be than most other Americans. I’m outnumbered and that’s just the way it is.