I’m talking about this sort of thing. Like clearly I wouldn’t want someone to see that on my phone in the office or when I’m sat on a bus.

However there seems be a lot of these that aren’t filtered out by nsfw settings, when a similar picture of a woman would be, so it seems this is a deliberate feature I might not be understanding.

Discuss.

  • irotsoma@lemmy.world
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    Yes. Problem is that NSFW has lost its original meaning to a lot of people. NSFW was originally to hide things that might be controversial to be visible on your screen in a workplace, so it should be fairly conservative. Beachwear would 100% not be safe to look at in a work environment.

    But now a lot of places are using it to determine what is safe to look at not in front of your boss, but in front of your kids or in public. That is a much different thing. NSFW flags should not be used to restrict kids from seeing it, just your boss. There needs to be a separate flag for hiding things from kids. And because social norms are different in different societies, there should be even more granularity in the flags. Nudity is just one thing that is NSFW.

    NSFW should be reserved for blocking things that I don’t want to suddenly appear on my screen when I’m browsing the Internet on my break at work when I’m allowed to browse the Internet, but it wouldn’t be good for a naked picture to show up on my screen suddenly.

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    Yes.

    The tag is Not Safe For Work. I’d say that if you were to look at this in most work places you’d probably be speaking to HR within the hour…

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    When browsing in All or similar, there’s a non-zero chance of coming across things that can be offensive, explicit, or disgusting. You shouldn’t encounter anything pornographic or where people die or get horribly injured, but that is my only expectation.

    I browse in thumbnail view for that reason. It’s enough to see if I want to see a full image, if it’s not something I want to see, I didn’t get hit full blast by it, and if it’s something I don’t want people around to see at that moment, it’s much harder for them to see it and faster to scroll past.

    When you select a sort that pulls from every community, it’s you asking to see everything. Death, injury, and private parts are about the only things the bulk of society can agree are at least somewhat offensive, so those are the only things you should expect to see blocked by a NSFW filter. Lewd, gross, and offensive are still free to pass, for better or worse. That’s the Internet culture has existed for most of its existence and feels pretty universal in my experience.

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    I think if you wouldn’t use it as your wallpaper at work because it is inappropriate for work, that’s NSFW. So yeah at my job that would be NSFW.

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    Having looked at your referenced image. No. She is appropriately clothed for summer.

    In certain states in the US, a woman can choose to be topless anywhere a man can be. This woman is not topless.

    Also maybe not visit Lemmy or any social media at work.

    As far as on the bus? I guarantee that there’s a woman on the bus in similar atire off it’s summer.

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      Also, Americans are usually more prude, especially when it comes to the female body, than what is healthy (I understand that you would not want to make an attempt at social change starting in the workplace though).

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    As a side note, if there can be a sort of tag that denotes things like half naked anime characters, I would be the first one to permanently filter them out of my feed because they contribute absolute zero value to my experience here. Not trying to be a downer but it’s just not for me. I’m glad there are people who enjoy that and can have that.

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    Of course it should. NSFW doesn’t mean too hot to handle. It means, I don’t want coworkers or customers seeing this on my screen, as a matter of professionalism.

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    This is a weird thread… Lots of people really give a shit about what others think about the content they consume. There’s also a lot of strange presumptions about people who watch anime and how it’s creepy when adults watch it. If you were just described above, maybe you should reevaluate some things.

    If you would get in trouble for this image on your phone at work, then you really should not be on Lemmy at work. I’m sure there are perfectly acceptable threads for your workspace on Lemmy, but then again, people used to read the articles in playboy magazine. Also, the example image is only sexual if you sexualize it, which you are doing by saying it should be marked nsfw. If the local news stations are comfortable showing gymnasts and swimmers and volleyball players in their respective uniforms, then why should this be any different? Lastly, if that drawing is making you uncomfortable, I don’t know how to help you because this is so so so incredibly far from the worst content you can find on this site. Maybe you shouldn’t be on here at all if that’s the case.

    It’s only weird if you make it weird and this whole thread is making it weird.

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        People who want NSFW stuff in their feed can tick “Show NSFW content” and untick “Blur NSFW content”. There’s no reason to argue with other people for wanting to use the NSFW tag for exactly what it was designed and named for.

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          Yes, there is.

          Should XY be tagged as NSFW is not asking about if the tag should exist on certain topics (that’s indeed something you can ignore with your own settings) but about if people should be forced to flag stuff as NSFW. And I refuse to tag stuff as NSFW just because I can imagine someone, somehow, in some rare context wanting that tag. Because by then it lost all meaning and we should do an “Yes this is safe for 4 years olds”-tag instead.

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            I claim that it’s quite clear that this is not suitable for work. HR are not going to get cross with me for browsing memes in my lunch break on my phone, but if this comes up, it’s clearly not OK, and I don’t think I’m at all unusual in having a work environment like that.

            I’m just asking that we try to use Not Suitable For Work to mean not suitable for work. You might feel that my workplace is weird, but that’s not what you’re arguing, so I think you’re kind of missing the point of the tag. Yay internet freedom and all that, but tagging something that’s very likely to get someone in trouble at work as NSFW is just being a considerate person. That’s all. People are still free to see it, but it gives them the freedom to choose to filter it out and use their phone when they’re on a break at work.

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              Again, I think you’re on the wrong site at work then. Lemmy is not suitable for your workplace and you’re asking us to make it suitable for your workplace.

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                You can say I shouldn’t be on social media at work as much as you like, but until you’re writing my pay cheques, it doesn’t mean anything. We lead different lives, you and I. I’m sorry that your work doesn’t allow you down time at lunch, but try not to hate on me for working at a place that does.

                All I’m asking is that folks use the Not Suitable For Work tag on things that are not suitable for work. I just don’t see that as a particularly big or bad thing to ask.

                What makes you so keen to see this stuff at work anyway?

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                  I didn’t say that. And I am completely allowed on social media at work. But that image wouldn’t get me any heat for being on my phone. You are not the authority on what is and is not suitable for all work places and I’m glad that’s the case because your aim is to create a more censored internet. Just because you are sexualizing that anime woman, does not mean we all need to.

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      The difference between this and swimming attire is context. Seeing a swimming competition on the communal TV at work doesn’t make you look like a creep but checking out drawings of a half-naked anime girl on your personal device does.

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    I just block the people that post them, and the sub it’s from. I almost never see that shit now.

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      I do the same but there so fucking many, it seems. Why are people so into the cartoon porn? It’s fucking weird.

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        Yeah, there seems to be some disconnect with those people. I look at the people’s history before blocking them, and the ones posting that content often have some mental health issues.

        Probably resulting from an inability to find healthy love or the feeling of being loved, as most mental health issues seem to stem from.

        Love is all we need, and when it’s lacking, shit gets weird.

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    That would be perfectly acceptable where I live and work. No nudity, no tits, no genitals, move along…

    On the other hand, anime in general is relegated to teens more than not here, so any anime would raise eyebrows if seems browsing from my phone by others given I am definitely not a teen by large.

    YMMV, but different cultures different sensibility.

    Should Lemmy be a MCM or a MCD? I think this should be the question.